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Subject: Re: [ebxml-msg] Fwd: SOAP w/ Attachments

Ok, I'll put it on the agenda. I am happy to just go the Note route, I'm not known for taking advice from MSFT anyway :-)

On 7-Oct-04, at 7:12 PM, Jacques Durand wrote:

We should put this on the agenda next call.
But that needs more thoughts: there are several aspects to consider, in addition to the primary focus on infoset optimization (base54 ).
We need to look at the handling of messages that are initially in several [heterogeneous] parts (i.e. not  suitable to represent as a SOAP envelope anyway)
I would expect the MIME XOP package for SOAP to be of interest to us, and here we need to look at the implications (e.g. role of the SOAP body compared to a SWA approach, etc.)
I wouldn't make the CR status a major plus... (many "notes" have had no acceptance problem )
-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew MacKenzie [mailto:mattm@adobe.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 8:06 AM
To: ebxml-msg@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [ebxml-msg] Fwd: SOAP w/ Attachments

I have to admit, this Microsoft fellow does make some sense. If we are moving to SOAP 1.2, why not also move to XOP? A CR is more solid than a Note, is it not?

Begin forwarded message:

From: Satish Thatte <satisht@microsoft.com>

Date: October 7, 2004 10:58:22 AM EDT

To: Matthew MacKenzie <mattm@adobe.com>, John_Barton@hpl.hp.com, frystyk <frystyk@microsoft.com>

Subject: RE: SOAP w/ Attachments

Matthew, Microsoft believes that the MTOM work http://w3c.org/TR/2004/CR-soap12-mtom-20040826/ (shows the direction for the future in this area and would encourage you to move to that direction instead of updating a deprecated spec.


From: Matthew MacKenzie [mailto:mattm@adobe.com]

Sent: Mon 10/4/2004 9:48 AM

To: Satish Thatte; John_Barton@hpl.hp.com; frystyk

Subject: SOAP w/ Attachments


I'm contacting you as the original authors of the SOAP With Attachments

W3C Note dated December 11, 2000. I am the current editor of the OASIS

ebXML Messaging standard (ISO 15000-2), and an working on the next

major release of our standard (v3). Version two of ebXML Messaging

made use of SOAP with Attachments which is specifically bound to SOAP

1.1. In Version 3, we would like to use SOAP 1.2.

The SwA note's contents would only require modest changes / amendments

to allow it to support SwA applications that are migrating to SOAP 1.2.

As a courtesy to the original authors of the Note, I'm asking for your

advice on how to proceed. I see it going one of two ways:

a) The original authors (and other interested parties, perhaps) submit

a new Note that includes provisions for SOAP 1.1 and 1.2.

b) We (possibly including Adobe, Fujitsu, British Telecom, Cyclone

Commerce and Sun Microsystems) submit a note that effectively overloads

the original note to specify what needs to be different in the MIME

package (the mime type, for example).

Your comments / intentions would be greatly appreciated.


Matthew MacKenzie

Sr. Architect, Adobe Systems

Editor, OASIS ebXML Messaging TC

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