Re: [egov] BCM and eprXML pilots

[Farrukh Najmi <Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM>]

Weiland, John R. NMIMC GS wrote:

>Good Morning,
>
>This seemed to be a recurring theme during our F2F last week.  I envisioned
>a Registry/Repository a utility for programmer's use, not a broker for end
>users.
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>
John,

I cannot recall whether you were present on Thursday afternoon when I 
presented ebXML Registry and Repository (ebReg).

In that brief presentation I described how an ebXML Registry is not just 
for design time but is playing several different roles
for benefit of end-users and run-time.

I started by using the following analogy:

"ebReg is to web services what relational databases were to enterprise 
applications"

If we ask the question:  Are  relational databases needed by enterprise 
applications only at run time?

Of course we come to the conclusion that the answer is: NO

ebXML Registry  may have started with the idea of being a place to 
manage CPP/A, BPSS, UBL schemas etc. but it was designed as a general 
purpose Content Management solution.

I lead an open source project that implements ebReg: 
http://ebxmlrr.sourceforge.net

Out of some 100+ users of our ebReg implementation, no more that 5 use 
it at design time. All the remainder use it at run time and for use by 
actual end users. Here are some examples:

SDMX
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A group of major financial institutions such as  IMF, World Bank, Swiss 
Banks etc. use ebXML Registry to manage third world debt statistics. A 
live registry may be seen at:

http://sdmx.oecd.org/sdmxDemo/index.jsp

Apelon
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A provider of clinical software uses an ebXML Registry to manage and 
serve medical guidelines and protocols. The end users
are doctors and nurses.

http://www.apelon.com

HL7
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NIST in the US Government operates an ebXML Registry to manage HL7 
Conformance templates. It is used by the HL7 user community.

http://hcxw2k1.nist.gov:8080/hl7services/index.jsp


The above examples are just a few I could think of to show that ebXML 
Registry is not just for design time and in fact is much more useful at 
run-time.

If this issue continues to recur then I suggest that we schedule a 
discussion in this in a subsequent TC con call so we can reach a common 
understanding on this important issue.

--
Respectfully, 
Farrukh


>r/ John Weiland
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Farrukh Najmi [mailto:Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM]
>Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 7:53 AM
>To: Hans A. Aanesen
>Cc: bcm@lists.oasis-open.org; egov@lists.oasis-open.org; Knut Lindelien
>Subject: Re: [egov] BCM and eprXML pilots
>
>
>Hans A. Aanesen wrote:
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>>Hi
>>
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>>
>>Thank you for a very fruitful conference.(Specially our workshop) 
>>
>>It is obvious that eprXML will be a very nice "face" for BCM in 
>>Governmental organized services in e-Gov SOA. Special interesting is 
>>the broader audience in the e-Gov TC and that they need a more 
>>governmental and not vendor controlled guidance.
>>
>> 
>>
>>One important topic here is the needed "single sign-on" PKI solutions 
>>based on a national repository (UDDI?)
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>Why do you pre-suppose UDDI here Hans?
>
>Were you aware that UDDI *DOES NOT* provide a repository at all?
>
>I would think that ebXML Registry would be a much better fit for a 
>standards-based national registry/repository. It *DOES* provide a 
>feature rich repository.
>
>I would be glad to explore this further with the team if needed. Thanks.
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