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Subject: Re: [egov] ebXML, Hutchinson Holdings, Terror ThreatsandContainer Shipment Tracking
Patrick, Thanks so much for the clarification. Your mention of a "key data reference model" below caused me to wonder if you were talking about the FEA DRM (whose release is imminent, according to public reports over the past several weeks). I now see that you were speaking of the TRM. I would like to very respectfully clarify your original statement, given this additional information. Your statement was: <Quote> The CIO Council is using OASIS ebXML as a key data reference model for its Federal Enterprise Architecture (FEA). The 28 federal departments, including Homeland Security and Justice, must adhere to the FEA. </Quote> I would respectfully say that your characterization of ebXML being used as a "key data reference model", or "key" in any respect with regard to the TRM is much too strong. ebXML is simply provided within the TRM as an example of a standard that can be placed under the "Data Exchange" category of the TRM taxonomy. It is not identified in any way as "key", or critical, or important (not to say that it's not an important standard) - it is simply provided as a reference. I just wanted to make sure that someone reading the original e-mail of this thread did not misunderstand the representation of ebXML within the publicly available reference models of the FEA. Respectfully, Joe Chiusano Booz Allen Hamilton Strategy and Technology Consultants to the World phogan@sinotechnologies.com wrote: > > Joe, > > Here is the link t the FEA Technical Reference Model (TRM) with ebXML: > http://www.feapmo.gov/featrm_service_specification.asp?@serviceareaid=114639&@servicecategoryid=114653&@servicestandardid=114654 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@bah.com> > Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 16:30:39 -0400 > To: phogan@sinotechnologies.com > Subject: Re: [egov] ebXML, Hutchinson Holdings, Terror Threats andContainer Shipment Tracking > > > Hi Patrick, > > > > Could you perhaps elaborate on your reference below regarding ebXML and > > the FEA Data Reference Model? I wasn't sure how to interpret your > > description. > > > > Kind Regards, > > Joe Chiusano > > Booz Allen Hamilton > > Strategy and Technology Consultants to the World > > > > phogan@sinotechnologies.com wrote: > > > > > > John, > > > > > > The CIO Council is using OASIS ebXML as a key data reference model for its Federal Enterprise Architecture (FEA). The 28 federal departments, including Homeland Security and Justice, must adhere to the FEA. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "John Evdemon" <jevdemon@microsoft.com> > > > Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 10:54:58 -0700 > > > To: "David RR Webber" <david@drrw.info>,"Duane Nickull" <dnickull@adobe.com> > > > Subject: RE: [egov] ebXML, Hutchinson Holdings, Terror Threats and Container Shipment Tracking > > > > > > > There are similar RFID initiatives already underway. > > > > > > > > What does ebXML add here? > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: David RR Webber [mailto:david@drrw.info] > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 5:39 AM > > > > > To: Duane Nickull > > > > > Cc: eGov OASIS; phogan@sinotechnologies.com; A.J. (Tony) Blazej > > > > > Subject: Re: [egov] ebXML, Hutchinson Holdings, Terror > > > > > Threats and Container Shipment Tracking > > > > > > > > > > Duane, > > > > > > > > > > Turns out the WCO folks are harmonizing the Customs Handling > > > > > form data. > > > > > That's not enough level of detail into the container history itself. > > > > > The old EDI US Customs 309 manifest and its UN equivalent > > > > > shows overall > > > > > manifest and packing of containers in vessel, but not history > > > > > of containers. > > > > > > > > > > Brainstorming this - seems like we need a lightweight system - > > > > > preferably thru hand held devices that can scan container > > > > > info' - and then > > > > > input logistics tracking details - and WIFI that to an ebXML server. > > > > > Making it hand-held means truck drivers can use them > > > > > cab-side - and then the terminal can upload the information and > > > > > consolidate the shipment history accordingly. > > > > > > > > > > DW > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Duane Nickull wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > David et al: > > > > > > > > > > > > World Customs Organization are the people to pitch this to > > > > > I believe. > > > > > > They are a UN org. They have something called the Secure container > > > > > > initiative or something like that they are working on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Duane > > > > > > > > > > > > David RR Webber wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> I just saw the peice on 60 Minutes tonight - where the CEO of > > > > > >> Hutchinson, who had > > > > > >> 44% of container traffic worldwide - is desperately looking for > > > > > >> support from > > > > > >> governments to help turn around the current vulnerability > > > > > situation. > > > > > >> Having been > > > > > >> ignored here in the USA. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from > > > > > the roster of the OASIS TC), go to > > > > > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/egov/members/leav > > > > > e_workgroup.php. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Patrick Hogan > > > Sino Technologies Corp. > > > (408)569-0973 > > > http://www.sinotechnologies.com > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of the OASIS TC), go to http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/egov/members/leave_workgroup.php. > > > > -- > > Kind Regards, > > Joseph Chiusano > > Associate > > Booz Allen Hamilton > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of the OASIS TC), go to http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/egov/members/leave_workgroup.php. > > > > Patrick Hogan > Sino Technologies Corp. > (408)569-0973 > http://www.sinotechnologies.com > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of the OASIS TC), go to http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/egov/members/leave_workgroup.php. -- Kind Regards, Joseph Chiusano Associate Booz Allen Hamilton
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