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Subject: Re: [egov] Countermeasures for Epidemic of Congressional Ignorance?
judith.jerome@cabinet-office.x.gsi.gov.uk wrote: >And along the same lines, what about some openly developed geospatial >information systems similar to those proposed by the Open Geospatial >Consortium? It is the actual 'location' of the corner of Haight and >Ashbury *and* how to get there which becomes operative in these >emergency scenarios. And geographic information, by definition, (off >shore, coastal, satellite imagery etc.) is cross-border. > >What about a project where we combine GIS intelligence with ebXML >registry based info and a semantic interoperability approach? > >Just thoughts of the moment. > An excellent thought Judy. The Open GIS consortium has developed their own specs to build upon a profile of ebXML Registry. See link [14] in ebXML Registry metalink page: http://ebxmlrr.sourceforge.net/tmp/ebXMLRegistryLinks.html >Judy > >Judith A. Jerome > >Geographic Information Specialist > >UK Cabinet Office, e-Government Unit (Infrastructure Services) > >Stockley House, 130 Wilton Road, London SW1V 1LQ > >Email: Judith.Jerome@Cabinet-office.x.gsi.gov.uk > >Tel: +44 (0)207 276 3202 > >Mobile: +44 (0)7887 690 616 > >Fax: +44 (0)207 276 3292 > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Farrukh Najmi [mailto:Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM] >Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 10:58 PM >To: peter@justbrown.net >Cc: 'Rex Brooks'; 'Duane Nickull'; huml@lists.oasis-open.org; >emergency@lists.oasis-open.org; egov@lists.oasis-open.org; >sia-pilot6@humanml.cim3; Colin.Wallis@ssc.govt.nz >Subject: Re: [egov] Countermeasures for Epidemic of Congressional >Ignorance? > >Peter F Brown wrote: > >>Interesting thread: just been talking in Vienna today on exactly this >> >sort > >>of use case with Edwin Bruce, head of eGov projects in the New Zealand >>government. We both think that there are opportunities for >> >collaboration in > >>such pilots: one only has to look at the recurrence of major seasonal >>flooding in Central Europe in the last few years or the ever present >>background threat of a major health pandemic, such as Avian flu...these >> >are > >>all naturally cross-agency and cross-border phenomena and the ebXML >>federated registry model coupled with some semantic interoperability >>approach would indeed seem to fit the bill.... >> >> >This scenario is very similar to one a bunch of us collaborated on at >XML 2003. > >Slides are at: > >http://ebxmlrr.sourceforge.net/presentations/oasis-demo-xml2003.sxi >http://ebxmlrr.sourceforge.net/presentations/oasis-demo-xml2003.ppt > >The scenario was of Avian Flu Epidemic when it was big news in far east >:-) > >It used ebXML Registry, ebXML Messaging, ebXML CPP/A, XForms, XACML etc. > >If it were done today OASIS CAP would also be included and potentially >some other standards and technologies. > >>Peter >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Rex Brooks [mailto:rexb@starbourne.com] >>Sent: 19 September 2005 21:30 >>To: Duane Nickull; Rex Brooks; huml@lists.oasis-open.org; >>emergency@lists.oasis-open.org; egov@lists.oasis-open.org; >>sia-pilot6@humanml.cim3 >>Subject: RE: [egov] Countermeasures for Epidemic of Congressional >> >Ignorance? > >>Thanks foor the reply, Duane, >> >>The pilot project I'm working on now does some of this and is a >> >Semantic > >>Interoperability Rachitecture Pilot as well as being SOA in a loosely >>coupled way, and we plan to use ebXML REgistry/Repository as well as >> >many > >>other components. It's far from any kind of panacea, but i think it >> >will be > >>a small step in the right direction. >> >>Regards, >>Rex >> >>At 12:20 PM -0700 9/19/05, Duane Nickull wrote: >> >> >>>Rec: >>> >>>Sadly, in a previous company we proposed an architecture to the >>>Canadian Government (prior to being acquired by Adobe) for a low costs >>> > > >>>system that would have helped alleviate some of the problems from this >>> > > >>>type of emergency. >>> >>>While dwelling on the past is important to learn lessons, I also think >>> > > >>>it is important to look forward and take action. The proposed system >>>was registry based and would allow government and civilian entities >>> >to > >>>register the following via easy to use web forms: >>> >>>1. What types of events they wish to be notified about and when. >>>Example: If there is a landslide in the Rocky Mountains that blocks a >>>public highway, notify me since I am a civilian trucking company and I >>> > > >>>need to know this to reroute my trucks or "Tell me about potential >>>hurricanes 48 hours in advance since I have to collect and evacuate >>>elderly people". >>> >>>2. A list of anything they have that they would make available during >>>an emergency. Example: I have a diesel generator and 200 gallons of >>>fuel in my backyard >>> >>>3. Details of any services they are prepared to offer during an >>>emergency (example: I have a chainsaw and can help cut through fallen >>>trees. >>> >>>4. Details of how they can be contacted in an emergency including >>>backup plans in case no infrastructure exists (example: If the phones >>>are out, I will be at the corner of Haight & Ashbury. >>> >>>5. Workflows and procedures for emergency workers to take. >>> >>>The idea is that everyone who has a stake in a situation would have a >>>chance to play a role. Agencies from local governments to >>>international relief workers could all use it. >>> >>>The architecture is public record since it was submitted to the GoC as >>> > > >>>an RFI proposal. Anyone interested in seeing it or making use of it >>>please let me know and I can forward it to them. >>> >>>I think systems like this would only cost around CAD $100,000 to >>>implement and probably minimal $$ to keep operational. A bargain >>>compared to the chaos that can result when things go wrong. >>> >>>The architecture used the OASIS CAP and the ebXML Registry/Repository >>>standards along with other web service standards. >>> >>>Anyone want to build it? >>> >>>Duane >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Rex Brooks [mailto:rexb@starbourne.com] >>>Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 8:06 AM >>>To: huml@lists.oasis-open.org; emergency@lists.oasis-open.org; >>>egov@lists.oasis-open.org; sia-pilot6@humanml.cim3 >>>Subject: [egov] Countermeasures for Epidemic of Congressional >>> >Ignorance? > >>>Hi Everyone, >>> >>>Please excuse the inept and mangled metaphors, but I think I have a >>>concussion from being hit by this um, fiscal responsibility? >>> >>>I note this with considerable dismay since it looks a lot like we >>>suddenly discovered that we are hemorrhaging from a leg so we are >>> >going > >>>to amputate our right arm as if we could somehow save the blood in >>> >that > >>>arm or keep it from flowing out our gashed leg. Let's ignore how much >>>work that arm could do, for things like, well, tying a tourniquet >>>around the wound from which we are actually bleeding? >>> >>>http://fcw.com/article90814-09-16-05-Web&newsletter%3Dyes >>> >>>Better idea. Let's rescind the minimum wage and hire all those >>>displaced refugees, oops, no, they're called.... what was it? Ah yes, >>>evacuees. How much more civilized can you get? I never thought >>>ignorance was contagious till now. >>> >>>Rex >>>-- >>>Rex Brooks >>>President, CEO >>>Starbourne Communications Design >>>GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison >>>Berkeley, CA 94702 >>>Tel: 510-849-2309 >>> >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that >>>generates this mail. 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