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Subject: RE: FW: [election-services] EML next steps with JTC1 (interim update)



Thanks for the update and the apparent v good progress.  I’ll certainly help with the documentation changes, might be a good opportunity to re-vamp some of them as they are a bit impenetrable now and off-putting to new-comers.


Would it be worth getting a date it the diary now for  a TC call to review the schema changes given how busy people are?  From what you’re saying maybe first week in May?




From: David RR Webber (XML) [mailto:david@drrw.info]
Sent: 08 April 2009 16:39
To: John Borras
Subject: RE: FW: [election-services] EML next steps with JTC1 (interim update)




I believe I'm almost done on the base V6 wishes changes - retiring the 120 is the last piece there.


Then I need to move out shortly on the new message for polling place location for the VIP folks.


I'm hoping to have a draft on that in next couple of weeks (borrowing heavily from what OASIS EDXL has already done for Google map applications) - then after that - it just depends how quickly we solidify that new schema...


Then generate the final documentation - (think I can almost entirely automate most of that now from the schema) - John I'd like your help in editing general text V5 -> V6 global changes on all that though - and we should be ready for first committee draft.


Thanks, DW

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: FW: [election-services] EML next steps with JTC1 (interim
From: "John Borras" <john@pensive.eu>
Date: Tue, April 07, 2009 7:08 am
To: "EML TC" <election-services@lists.oasis-open.org>


In the light of this we should be looking to complete our v6 development
work in the next couple of months so that means providing David with all
the help and advice he needs please.

David - no pressure .....-) but what's your projected timetable and
would it help to have a TC call to discuss any aspects of v6?


-----Original Message-----
From: John Borras
Sent: 07 April 2009 12:05
To: 'James Bryce Clark'
Cc: 'Laurent Liscia'; 'Carol Cosgrove-Sacks'; EML TC
Subject: RE: [election-services] EML next steps with JTC1 (interim


Thanks very much for this update. I don't see anything in this to
change the view of the TC that we should press ahead with v6 and then
submit that version to ISO later this year. Indeed we are well into our
v6 work now and will press ahead with all due speed on that - depending
how fast David W can go!! I'll come back to you for further advice on a
new ISO submission when we are further through the OASIS approvals


Skype: gov3john
m. +44 (0)7976 157745

-----Original Message-----
From: James Bryce Clark [mailto:jamie.clark@oasis-open.org]
Sent: 05 April 2009 00:14
To: John Borras
Cc: 'Laurent Liscia'; 'Carol Cosgrove-Sacks'; James Bryce Clark; EML TC
Subject: [election-services] EML next steps with JTC1 (interim update)

This is an interim report on our OASIS submission arrangements with
ISO/IEC JTC1, which as you know the Elections TC hopes to use later
this year.

We talked earlier about JTC1's wide-ranging debates over how
external submissions like the "PAS" submissions from OASIS are
handled. We discussed this at your meeting, when you considered the
state of EML v5, and the TC decided to hold any request for JTC1
submission until your next major version, EML v6, expected later
this calendar year.

Since then, the JTC1 leadership has asked us to visit with the
leaders of one relevant subcommittee, SC34, which we have done in a
series of meetings, and worked out some possible ground rules for
future handling of versions, errata, and the like,. These
recommendations are being provided both to JTC1 (who will act to
formally accept them in June or thereabouts). Shortly I expect to
hear back from the just-completed SC34 meetings in Prague, where
they were planning to endorse those principles in writing.

At the same time we are working on the same issues with the OASIS
Board of Directors, who created a committee (on which I sit) to
review and revise our own rules for these submissions. Their work
should be done within a month, and I will report it to you. It is
my hope that they will adopt the same basic principles that JTC1
plans to recommend. So far the two groups seem to be converging
nicely on common solutions. The Board is considering what other
rules and requirements it wishes to apply, because the Liaison
Policy (covering external submissions) has not been reviewed for
several years; as I mentioned to you when we spoke, we should know
shortly whether any other rules or plans will come from that review.

I think we're still on the course predicted when we spoke earlier
this year: by the time your committee has v6 ready to go, we should
have a commonly-understood and updated set of submission and
cooperation rules to use as well.

Thanks for all of the work you are putting into EML, and we'll look
forward to working with you to advance it once the current version
is ready.

Kind regards Jamie

~ James Bryce Clark
~ Director of Standards Development, OASIS
~ http://www.oasis-open.org/who/staff.php#clark

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