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Subject: RE: [emergency-adopt-events] FW: Event Theme Ideas...Part 2
You're correct as far as demonstrating preparedness goes per se. So let me rephrase it to say that you only demonstrate preparedess by the results of preparedness, which you can test and prove to a certain extent by practice drills, demos and exercises. However, genuine preparedness only shows when the rubber meets the road. To me the kind of preparedness we can actually show means practice, simulations, exercises, conformance testing, etc. Unfortunately to say that with semantic and logical correctness would be to say that we demonstrate preparedness preparations or preparedness planning and that's even longer and more wordy and redundant to boot. But that's what I'm aiming at. So I admit that it isn't the best way to say it. We need to show how planning software and response operations mgt software from different vendors and different service providers services actually interoperate together. that's as close as we can get until its real. So where do we go from here? I'm in favor of words that work for us, not the other way round and I'll go with whatever makes the most sense to the group. However, we may need to settle it in a meeting. Cheers, Rex At 3:23 PM -0400 6/2/09, Dean Reese wrote: >Rex -- > >As context: I am a product/vendor person, so I am very careful in how I >discuss products because I do not want to over sell/commit. > >I agree the 50ft direction. However, I think you are still missing my >point. > >At the point alerts go out, you are demonstrating response, not >preparedness. When I think preparedness, I think plans, defining >alerts, contact lists, facilities, resources, etc. There are standards >that use this information, but we really don't have standards that help >define, manage and store this information in common format. So if we >don't have the standards, then we can't demo them. > >Maybe its semantics, but it seems a stretch to talk about "Demonstrating >Preparedness .. " All said, if the rest of the group is ok with the >wording, then move forward. > >Regards >Dean > > > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. >-----Original Message----- > >From: Rex Brooks [mailto:rexb@starbourne.com] >Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 2:56 PM >To: Dean Reese; Jane Harnad; emergency-adopt-events@lists.oasis-open.org >Subject: RE: [emergency-adopt-events] FW: Event Theme Ideas...Part 2 > >I think you demonstrate preparedness by having prearranged and >coordinated services and plans that have been practiced so that when >an alert is triggered, non-repudiation and confirmation occurs, the >alert is promulgated quickly and correctly, the alerts are clear on >what the emergency incident is and what the affected public should >do, as well as getting the appropriate, prearranged and practiced >response services into play quickly and efficiently. We can't claim >to have solved all the problems, but we can claim to be working on >the solutions. > >Of course there is the issue of getting the appropriate level of >incident command into place quickly and efficiently, and we need to >do our work so that we can help get the inter-governmental lines of >communication open. This is one way to do that. > >I am hoping that, even though it will not take place until September, >this will be the start of an ongoing series of events that are >regularly scheduled and that local pilots are funded so that we can >get this kind of coordinated preparedness into operationality by >having regularly scheduled exercises that introduce more and more >standards in practice and begin winning over the rank and file of >local fire and police departments and local CERT teams. > >Such pilots can then be rolled out to more and more localities and >the pilots replicated reliably. We have tons of things that need to >be done, and while showcases are needed, I think they need to >directly connect the notion of preparedness to actual action. >Standards have to adopted as a matter of course to be effective. > >Basically, we can't demonstrate that we have the kind of preparedness >we want, only that we are determined to create the environment in >which the kind of preparedness we want is unavoidable. > >Wow, someone get me off the soapbox before I fall! > >Cheers, >Rex > >At 1:58 PM -0400 6/2/09, Dean Reese wrote: >>All - >> >> >>I will go again go back to my concern with B. >> >>"Demonstrating Emergency Preparedness and Response Coordination through >>Open Data Standards" >> >>Demonstrating "Response Coordination" it straight forward. How do you >>propose demonstrating Preparedness. Unless it can be clearly >>demonstrated - I think it sets the wrong expectation. >> >> >>Regards >>Dean >> >> >> Please consider the environment before printing this email. >>-----Original Message----- >> >>From: Jane Harnad [mailto:jane.harnad@oasis-open.org] >>Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 1:45 PM >>To: emergency-adopt-events@lists.oasis-open.org >>Subject: RE: [emergency-adopt-events] FW: Event Theme Ideas...Part 2 >> >>Thanks Rex, >> >>I do like B, however, fear it might be too long. Any suggestions on >>shortening it up a bit? Or does everyone think its fine as is? >> >>Jane >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Rex Brooks [mailto:rexb@starbourne.com] >>Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 1:36 PM >>To: Jane Harnad; emergency-adopt-events@lists.oasis-open.org >>Subject: Re: [emergency-adopt-events] FW: Event Theme Ideas...Part 2 >>Importance: High >> >>Thanks Jane, >> >>Even though it isn't my own contribution, I think >>that for audience hook, B is best. >> >>Cheers, >>Rex >> >>At 12:58 PM -0400 6/2/09, Jane Harnad wrote: >>>Hello Everyone, >>> >>>Below is an update on our event title & theme search for the upcoming >>EM >>>fall event. I'd like to see us confirm a title by Thursday of this >>week, >>so >>>please forward any final comments as soon as possible. Thanks, Jane >>> >>> >>>Event Title: Emergency Management Interoperability Summit >>> >>>Top Three Themes: >>> >>>A.) "Interoperability and Integration of Emergency Management >Services" >>> >>>B.) "Demonstrating Emergency Preparedness and Response Coordination >>through >>>Open Data Standards" >>> >>>C.) "Demonstrating Effective Response Solutions" >>> >>> >>> >>>Original Theme Ideas: >>> >>>Emergency Management Interoperability Conference >>>"Keeping the Communication Lines Open" >>> >>>EM 2009: Interoperability Conference >>>"Horizontal & Vertical Industry Preparedness" >> > >>>Interactive Emergency Management Technology Conference & >Demonstrations >>>"Communicating Key Technology Processes" >>> >>>Interactive Emergency Management Conference >>>"Demonstrating Effective Communication" >>> >>>EM 2009: Conference & Expo >>>"Interoperating Emergency Management Solutions" >>> >>>Emergency Management Interoperability Workshop >>>"Key Ingredients to Successful Communications" >>> >>>Emergency Management Interoperability Summit >>>"Preparedness and Emergency Response Solutions" >>> >>>EM 2009 Interoperability Summit >>>"Coordinating Communication Efforts through Open Standard Solutions" >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that >>>generates this mail. 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