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Subject: Re: [emergency-if] Groups - 09/01/2009 Agenda IF SC Meeting (09-01-09Agenda IF SC Meeting.doc) uploaded

Thanks for the reply, Carl,

The core services I refer to are the same. Brand Niemann was on the call 
today and will be coordinating the NCOIC Cloud Computing Pattern as 
well, so yup, left and right hands are working together, now. I was 
aprosed of the core services earlier but not with detailed info suitably 
well documented for me to include in the first draft of the Pattern I'm 

What I was relatively unaware of was the extent to which the P-25 Radio 
system nationwide at what appears to be all levels but especially at the 
local level was/is inadequately coordinated and the whole BSI ROIP 
standard effort seems like an orphan out there on its own without any 
siblings or much focused support.

Sensors play in the same sandbox, as you know, so there's a lot of 
coordinating to do and it certainly does not look like anyone has really 
stepped up to take that coordination and communication on in an 
effective way.  Effective in this case would include ensuring that the 
parties that are already in the sandbox are communicating. Fortunately, 
we can change that.


Carl Reed wrote:
> If anyone is interested in a definition of cloud computing, NIST has 
> invested considerable consensus effort. Ties into multiple programs, 
> such as SmartGrid etc. 
> http://cobb.typepad.com/cubegeek/2009/06/the-nist-cloud-definition.html
> Also, Rex, are you familiar with the core services proposal that the 
> COMCARE and the OGC initially developed and that has been extended as 
> part of a grant proposal - coordinated by NCOIC? I sure hope the left 
> and right hands are shaking on this one!
> Cheers
> Carl
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rex Brooks" <rexb@starbourne.com>
> To: <Tom.Merkle@lmco.com>
> Cc: <emergency-if@lists.oasis-open.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 1:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [emergency-if] Groups - 09/01/2009 Agenda IF SC Meeting 
> (09-01-09 Agenda IF SC Meeting.doc) uploaded
>> Hi Folks,
>> Sorry to make a tough half hour tougher, but I need to introduce the 
>> topic of Cloud Computing, Mesh Networks and BSI for Radio over IP 
>> since all this is being added aas part of "Core Services" to the 
>> NCOIC All Hazards Alert and Warning Network Centric Pattern I'm 
>> writing. Here's what Wikipedia has to say about BSI:
>> The BSI draft standard[1] is being developed by Public safety 
>> practitioners and interested vendors, and sponsored by the Department 
>> of Homeland Security's (DHS) Science and Technology Directorate; 
>> Office for Interoperability and Compatibility(OIC) and National 
>> Institute of Standards and Technology's (NIST) Office of Law 
>> Enforcement Standards.
>> A Bridging Systems Interface (BSI) is a hardware or software platform 
>> that enables radio system or radio gateway interoperability in an 
>> Radio over IP system. The BSI is essentially a "black box" between 
>> the radio and the rest of the IP network.
>> I need to integrate this in an environment where I'm discovering that 
>> P-25 Radio Interoperability is a myth. Down in the fire zone they're 
>> carrying three different radios for LAPD, LA County Sheriffs and LA 
>> County Fire Department.
>> Not acceptable. In short words 'this can't stand.'
>> Whomever's nose we have to knock outa joint, we gotta do it 
>> yesterday. I have family in SoCal even if they are not in LA County 
>> anymore. Their counties are not any better. Tom Ferrentino lost a 
>> close friend in Buffalo last week.  Enough is way too much!
>> Time to Saddle up,
>> Rex
>> Tom.Merkle@lmco.com wrote:
>>> The document named 09/01/2009 Agenda IF SC Meeting (09-01-09 Agenda 
>>> IF SC
>>> Meeting.doc) has been submitted by Mr. Tom Merkle to the EM 
>>> Infrastructure
>>> Framework SC document repository.
>>> Document Description:
>>> View Document Details:
>>> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=34003
>>> Download Document: 
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>> -- 
>> Rex Brooks
>> President, CEO
>> Starbourne Communications Design
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>> Berkeley, CA 94702
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