OASIS Mailing List ArchivesView the OASIS mailing list archive below
or browse/search using MarkMail.


Help: OASIS Mailing Lists Help | MarkMail Help

emergency-msg message

[Date Prev] | [Thread Prev] | [Thread Next] | [Date Next] -- [Date Index] | [Thread Index] | [List Home]

Subject: RE: [emergency-msg] Draft schemas from the meeting


Hi Gary (& others),


The problem I see with treating Location as just a container for GML information is that you lose the ability to capture street addresses within the ScheduleInformation – unless you embed them in the free-text “Description” element, which is not an optimal solution.  For example, we can no longer capture this sort of thing (from the example in Section


        <ScheduleInformation scheduleType="RequestedArrival">



                <Description>Innisfail Animal Refuge</Description>













                            <xnal:NameElement>Downing St</xnal:NameElement>











I suppose we could connect the ScheduleInformation and CIQInformation objects directly in the ERM (without hanging CIQInformation off Location, as it was previously) – but to my mind, grouping CIQ addresses under Location makes sense, because an address is one valid way of specifying a Location (a GML Point is another, etc…).


Unless I’m mistaken, the ContactInformation captured at the ResourceMessage level captures only address information for the resource requester, owner, etc. – it doesn’t specify addresses for sending resources.


By the way (a question for the whole group), is it intentional that ContactInformation is now sitting up in the corner of the ERM by itself, not connected to anything?  It is a bit confusing, as it doesn’t show where it fits into the message structure.  I noticed that the sub-elements of ContactInformation have also been removed from all of the message tables.


The schema layout looks fine to me – however, I would uncomment quite a few of the comments. J  Having worked through a lot of message examples, I tend to think that most of the things that have been removed are still needed.





From: Ham, Gary A [mailto:hamg@BATTELLE.ORG]
Sent: Wednesday, 13 December 2006 12:46 AM
To: Karen Robinson
Cc: emergency-msg@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [emergency-msg] Draft schemas from the meeting




I agree with you on the need for the committee to address CIQ content item specifically. And yes, I was just looking for a "straw man" CIQ profile.   But, "Party" and "Address" fill that need for now. Are there others that the committee wants? Should be a primary question for Thursday.


The difference between CIQInformation and Location was that Location is (at least in my mind) the container for the GML structure and CIQ is the structure for addressing, party naming, etc. following the OASIS spec for such data.  So, in my mind, CIQ was not part of Location, nor was Location part of CIQInformation.  Rather both were potential parts of ContactInformationType along with Radio, and a generic Description.  The objective was to put a place in for both standards, without having to directly mix them.   It was just my personal interpretation.  I am not hard over on it, though. If there is reason to do differently, I think the committee would be open to it. I certainly am.


Can I take it from your comments that the rest of the schema layout is OK with you?   After the "types" schema concept was your idea, and a good one.  Keep the input rolling!!!!






Gary A. Ham

Senior Research Scientist

Battelle Memorial Institute

540-288-5611 (office)

703-869-6241 (cell)

"You would be surprised what you can accomplish when you do not care who gets the credit." - Harry S. Truman



From: Karen Robinson [mailto:Karen.Robinson@nicta.com.au]
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 10:13 PM
To: Ham, Gary A
Subject: RE: [emergency-msg] Draft schemas from the meeting


Hi Gary,


Thanks for sending the schemas.  I’m a bit confused about what you want me to do with the CIQ information.  It looks like the “CIQInformationType” type I added is still there, just commented out.  Could we just uncomment it for now and use it “as is” until we develop a CIQ profile consisting of an appropriately restricted subset of CIQ?  Or are you asking me to actually develop the CIQ profile?  Unfortunately, I doubt that I could work out all of the potential parts of CIQ we might need by myself – I think this is probably an activity for the group as a whole to tackle.  So far, I have identified “Party” and “Address” as potentially useful parts of CIQ, but there must be other elements as well.


One thing that confuses me about the latest ERM and schema is why CIQInformation has been taken out of LocationType.  Previously, CIQ Addresses were the main way used to specify location (they are used in most if not all of the message examples).  Was there some discussion at the face-to-face surrounding this?





From: Ham, Gary A [mailto:hamg@BATTELLE.ORG]
Sent: Tuesday, 12 December 2006 1:45 AM
To: emergency-msg@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [emergency-msg] Draft schemas from the meeting




The attached schema files represent a completed (with clearly defined placeholders for CIQ and Location) reference schema for RM. Based on Karen Robinson's input, I broke it into two files. The Types schema represents all data structures that are unchanged across the spectrum of messages. They may be used or not use by a message, but they are unchanged where they are used.  The only exception is the likely further restriction of enumerated types.  The reference schema is the base schema for all RM messages.  It forms the least restrictive schema from which each of the messages will be derived.  I am working on each of the messages, but they will be a lot simpler because of Karen's input.  


For Karen, If you would like to specifically add the CIQ piece to the Types Schema (and tidy as necessary) I would appreciate it. 


For all, If your mail server strips off the attached files, just respond to my email hamg@battelle.org and I will send access to a file download capability.



Gary A. Ham

Senior Research Scientist

Battelle Memorial Institute

540-288-5611 (office)

703-869-6241 (cell)

"You would be surprised what you can accomplish when you do not care who gets the credit." - Harry S. Truman


This email and any attachments may be confidential. They may contain legally
privileged information or copyright material. You should not read, copy,
use or disclose them without authorisation. If you are not an intended
recipient, please contact us at once by return email and then delete both
messages. We do not accept liability in connection with computer virus,
data corruption, delay, interruption, unauthorised access or unauthorised
amendment. This notice should not be removed.


[Date Prev] | [Thread Prev] | [Thread Next] | [Date Next] -- [Date Index] | [Thread Index] | [List Home]