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Subject: RE: [huml] Convergent Standards Paper

Thanks Ranjeeth,

Please do send me the website phdatastandards and I will add them to 
the list. I intend to make this list as comprehensive and immediately 
useful in real-world terms as we can make it.

The Web Serivces for Remote Portlets Spec is entering the 
implementation phase (including the currently-lagging, emerging and 
established security standards) so our work will have all of its 
components, both those immediately deployed and those we can make 
plans to include in future portal configurations based on the most 
up-to-the-minute standards and resonable projections for those 
standards which will come into play in the next 12 to 24 months.

I survived my midnight-to-9 am telecon schedule for the European face 
to face meetings, but just barely. I fell ill halfway through 
yesterday's second day-long session, and missed some important 
discussions which further restricted the limited scope of the markup 
subcommittee I chair to considerations for inclusion in v 1.1 for 
rules for markup fragments--rather than v 2.0 considerations for 
integrating a wider range of markup/display options. That means also 
that 1.1 will dominate the next full year.

In effect, while it seems reasonable now, it will then be two years 
from the beginning of this TC until consideration for the 
technologies I most wanted to to explore will even be possible--and 
there are entrenched interests for whom, especially in this economy, 
exploring such technologies represent an expense with little ROI.

However, the extra hours they pushed forward on Monday--midnight to 
noon effectively, made it possible for today's session to wrap up at 
lunch--their time. Since there was one of those peculiarly French or 
Italian one-day transportation strikes yesterday, the train schedules 
from Grenoble to Paris went wacko today, so it turned out for the 

However, as we, ourselves in HumamML, move toward a more global 
orientation, in all our work and the work of related TCs and 
organizations to which we form liaisons, we really need to make sure 
that our own avatar-enabled chat can evolve into a full-fledged 
web-services-capable portal. Small occurences, like fatigue, lack of 
sleep and gastrointestinal cramping can have unfavorable consequences 
that spread out into the future.In this case, my 3 am illness results 
in delaying any consideration of technologies beyond voiceXML and WML 
for inclusion in the WSRP Spec 1.1 and perhaps 2.0.

We need to make sure such occurences don't dramatically alter what 
becomes possible for us. We can't prevent such ripples from other 
sources, but, if we can, we need to prevent such for us, especially 
if we intend to make HumanML a "communication equalizer" as Russell 
Ruggiero points out in his article.

This will need to include ways to integrate both off-the-shelf 
webcast collaboration tools or built-in capabilities to share 
presentation files that record these kinds of sessions (and other 
conferencing events). We definitely need to reduce reliance on 
expensive face-to-face meetings So, sigh, it looks like I/we will 
have to adopt a "Field of Dreams" approach for other technologies, 
like X3D, and hope that if we build it... they will come...

Or, if we can make it desireable and gain some momentum through good 
PR, we can build that integrated multimedia approach into a de facto 
standard--while keeping the licensing Royalty-Free and Open Source.


At 9:18 AM -0400 5/14/03, Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga wrote:
>Hi Rex,
>The paper looks like a very comprehensive resource.  Three minor things I
>noticed off the bat:
>1) I suggest referencing our HumanML work proper within the paper, unless
>you have a specific reason not to, in addition to HPCDML, in order to
>address additional characteristics including behavior and culture--they
>relate to identity (behavior is of course the section you have at the end of
>the paper). 
>2) There is a minor grammatical error in the wording of your first sentence,
>which you could probably rewrite.
>3) I have the website phdatastandards.info, which you may want to add to
>your list (representing Public Health Standards). 
>I'll CC: a final draft to the folks at NYAM.
>Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga
>-----Original Message-----
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rex Brooks [mailto:rexb@starbourne.com]
>Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 1:37 PM
>To: huml@lists.oasis-open.org; youssa@rpi.edu; RRugg55041@aol.com;
>rkthunga@interposting.com; clbullar@ingr.com; robnixon@execpc.com;
>rkthunga@humanmarkup.org; cognite@zianet.com; james.landrum@ndsu.nodak.edu;
>Cc: emergency@lists.oasis-open.org
>Subject: [huml] Convergent Standards Paper
>Hi Folks,
>I've taken the study of convergent standards about as far as I can for now.
>As a reminder, this paper deals with standards that are directly
>related to requirements for developing a comprehensive and
>self-consistent Human Physical Characteristics Description Markup
>Language and standards that are both directly and indirectly related
>to individual name, identity, medical and address data considerations
>for Emergency Management Technical Committee purposes.
>I have attached the Word .doc file. I can also send a plain text to
>anyone who needs it.
>Rex Brooks
>GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison, Berkeley, CA, 94702 USA, Earth
>W3Address: http://www.starbourne.com
>Email: rexb@starbourne.com
>Tel: 510-849-2309
>Fax: By Request

Rex Brooks
GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison, Berkeley, CA, 94702 USA, Earth
W3Address: http://www.starbourne.com
Email: rexb@starbourne.com
Tel: 510-849-2309
Fax: By Request

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