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Subject: Minutes from 12/14 EM-TC Telecon
- From: Elysa Jones <email@example.com>
- To: firstname.lastname@example.org
- Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:00:24 -0600
In cleaning up some old emails, I found these minutes had not been posted
- so here they are. Keep in mind these are dated. Elysa
Please find below the Minutes of the EM-TC conference call
1. Roll Call.
2. Minutes from the 11/30 meeting.
to reflect attendance of Tom Merkle
3. Face to face in New Orleans during OASIS Conference April
A face to
face meeting of the TC has been arranged through OASIS for the April
conference. A room will be reserved for a TC face to face during
the conference. Options for days are Wed (27th), Thurs (28th), or
Fri (29th). Morning meetings are from 8-12 and afternoon
12-6. We can have a half or whole day. We need to decide
which day we want, all day or half day and if half day - which
half. Please make any suggestions of preferred days and equipment
needs to Elysa as soon as possible.
4. EDXL work - discussions in each of the areas occurred as
Rex continues to review what is available. He will be looking at
the European interoperability framework. Elysa will give Rex
contract information for Michael Deconta, DHS Metadata Program
Manager. The name of Bob Grieves also came up during the EIC/DHS
meeting. Sukumar offered to inform the group when this
project is more well defined.
Profiles. Art identified four transports to be
profiled. 1) SOAP as used with DMIS and MyStateUSA servers,
2) RSS utilizing a channel approach with indexing as done with the
California EDIS project, Horman implementation and to some extent NWS, 3)
XMPP as used with the Jabber transport and 4) Multitask Datacast.
If anyone is aware of other transports that are in use for communicating
CAP messages, please submit. This is not intended to be an
exhaustive list but those transports that have been demonstrated with CAP
to date and for which we can write use documentation.
Distribution Header. There was some discussion about the EDXL
distribution element as to where it should belong - either in the header
or the message body. This is an issue that the practitioners have
wrestled with. In some cases it makes sense for the distribution
element to be in the header only which does not require the message body
to be read to obtain routing information. In some cases having the
routing information in the body makes sense. Use in the body should
be allowed but not required. We do not want the
standard to preclude either depending on need. The selected
transport has a bearing on that need. Much of this discussion
assumes a SOAP transport, for example. This is an example of where
input from the practitioners and their experiences to date would be
helpful. The EIC is developing a summary of comments from the
prototype demonstrations. Sukumar will try to find out when this
will be available.
posted a sample schema on the site. He plans to be putting together
a use document for DMIS in the next couple of weeks that could be
converted to a general purpose doc.
brought up the valid point that we need to declare and agree on a mission
statement for this project and proceed down a well planned path. It
is a bit awkward that we have these documents that are supposed to be
requirements and have already had various implementations but yet our
only mission is to turn out standards. We will address this and the
status of the transport and vocabularies on our EDXL work plan group
meeting on the conference call Friday 11:00 EST.
5. Review of EIC/DHS meeting. Elysa provided a review of the
12/9 EIC conference call. Basically a summary of the EDXL
work plan group was given - minutes are available on the list.
Cudos were given to the good work Art did while working with DHS/EIC in
getting EDXL to this point. Now that Art is doing other things, Lee
Tincher will be the technical point of contact within DHS for the
TC. Now that EDXL has been handed off, the EIC/DHS will begin phase
two of their efforts to promote EM interoperability standards. The
three possible identified topics are Resource Management, GIS and
Situational Awareness. Resource Management has been chosen for
phase two. If anyone is interested in helping define these
requirements, this will be done via the EIC and you can participate in
that effort by joining the EIC. Elysa stated that the TC has an
active GIS subcommittee. Lee mentioned that there are GIS efforts
underway within DHS that may be of interest to the TC. He
followed up with an email containing the details. This has been
passed on to Carl Reed, chair of the subcommittee and others that
expressed an interest. Michael Deconta (DHS Program Manager -
Metadata) was also provided as a point of contact for the work Rex is
doing with vocabularies.
6. Although not an agenda topic we discussed upcoming
demonstrations. The EIC is planning a January demonstration of EDXL
but this will be the last one until a standard comes out of the TC.
No specific details were available. Kwasi has been working with Dee
Schur of OASIS to possibly do a demonstration at the FOSE trade show in
April. Information will be put on the list to encourage anyone that
has some pull to help make this happen. Elysa also suggested that
we do an interop demo at NEMA mid-year conference. We will,
hopefully be in a comment period with the first EDXL specification at
that time. Gordon Fullerton had said in a previous meeting that he
would follow up to see if he could help make this happen.
7. Subcommittee reports. See the calendar and docs for
times/agendas/minutes for these subcommittees.
- Tom wasn't available for the call but has posted some up to date information on the site. Carl will post information about the European interop framework. Elysa mentioned the MESA project - also a European project to develop an "Emergency Data Exchange Standard." Art did a quick review and stated that "MESA is coming at this from the Computer Aided Dispatch point of view... like earlier efforts at APCO and NENA. That's a different and somewhat more specialized perspective than the FEMA / civil emergency management view. Also, they appear to be trying to address both transport and message-semantic in one standard, which I suspect may strain their resources and/or limit the flexibility of the product." There may not be much overlap with CAP but there could be some synergy. If we were to pursue a liaison arrangement it would diminish our resources with much work currently on our plate. I am however, passing on the link in the event some of you are interested in staying in touch with their efforts. Art suggested that it may be more a case of "when" not "if" we should work to harmonize these efforts. The information can be found at www.projectmesa.org. The next telecon for IF is 12/28 - see calendar for details.
GIS - There is the regular telecon next week for this SC next week. The subcommittee is awaiting any work that emerges from the TC. They will review what was provided by Lee.
Messaging - Art reports that the issues list is complete. The subcommittee has been working on this for a while and when finished they will release it to the TC for final approval. The goal is to have this complete on or close to year end so that we can begin the new year with a clean slate.
8. Charter. Also not on the agenda - the Charter was discussed. We have been waiting for some detailed wording on section 5 but it has not come forward. Elysa will make the changes agreed to in the 11/17 meeting. There was nothing critical in section 5 that had to be changed, so it will be left as is. If anyone would like to suggest some wording, please do so by the 12/28 conference call. Otherwise, it will be put out to vote on Kavi as we left it with the 11/19 changes.
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