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Subject: RE: HAVE


Agreed.

Cheers,
Rex

At 7:41 PM -0500 2/26/09, David Aylward \(Comcare\) wrote:
>This could have been avoided with more care by the writers of the Federal
>Register entry and the HITSP website.  I don't like standards we have
>sweated for to be perceived as second fiddle, but I care more that they are
>a federal requirement. 
>
>
>David K. Aylward, Director
>COMCARE Emergency Response Alliance 
>1351 Independence Court, SE
>Washington, DC 20003
>202.255.3215 (mobile)
>202.429.0574 (office)
>202.521-4047 (fax)
>daylward@comcare.org
>
>This communication is intended for the use of the recipient to which it is
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>information. Please contact us immediately if you are not the intended
>recipient of this communication, and do not copy, distribute, or take action
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>should be deleted or destroyed.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rex Brooks [mailto:rexb@starbourne.com]
>Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 2:45 PM
>To: David Aylward; Rex Brooks
>Cc: emergency@lists.oasis-open.org; Brett Trusko; David RR Webber (XML)
>Subject: Re: HAVE
>
>Thanks very much, David,
>
>I am copying the TC list with this reply. Sorry I didn't get my reply
>to your earlier question off earlier. Today is managing to hit a new
>high in maximum multi-tasking, and resultant delays in prompt replies.
>
>This is very helpful. I am also copying some other other interested
>parties, to indicate that EDXL-HAVE is no longer a specific issue.
>
>I really appreciate having this cleared up.
>
>Cheers,
>Rex
>
>At 12:20 PM -0600 2/26/09, David Aylward wrote:
>>Rex:
>>
>>Can you circulate this to the OASIS list please?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>I think we have gotten to the bottom of the HAVE pile, thanks to Steve
>>Hufnagel.  The bottom line is that HAVE is a recognized (federally
>>required)
>>standard by HHS and the HITSP process (along with our other OASIS EDXL
>>standards and CAP).   The email to me from Steve Hufnagel below explains
>>the
>>details on how clerical errors have created confusion.  I am pursuing
>>the
>>last point: getting HAVE listed on part of the HITSP website where it is
>>not
>>now listed.
>>
>>If more needs to be done, please let me know.
>>
>>
>>   David K. Aylward, Director
>>COMCARE Emergency Response Alliance
>>1351 Independence Court, SE
>>Washington, DC 20003
>>202.255.3215 (mobile)
>>202.429.0574 (office)
>>202.521-4047 (fax)
>>daylward@comcare.org <mailto:daylward@comcare.org>
>>
>>
>>   _____
>>
>>From: Steve Hufnagel [mailto:SHufnagel@Tiag.net]
>>Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 12:31 PM
>>To: David Aylward
>>Cc: mglickman@cnainc.com
>>Subject: RE: OASIS EDXL HAVE
>>
>>
>>They continue to use it. The confusion came up in the HHS publication in
>>the
>>federal register .
>>
>>Below is the message I caught from David Webber on Sat. Jan. 24. Sorry
>>we
>>didn't get back to this sooner, but we have all been busy. The link in
>>the
>>message below, repeated here
>><http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2009/pdf/E9-1068.pdf>http://edocket.acces
>>s.gp
>>o.gov/2009/pdf/E9-1068.pdf downloads the pdf of the Federal Register
>>entry
>>in question.
>>
>>   I double checked and actually found a reference to (HAVE) without EDXL
>>at
>>the bottom of column 1 and top of column 2 on page three:
>>
>>"... The Interoperability Standards associated with the HITSP
>>Biosurveillance Interoperability Specification (HITSP v2 2007 IS02), or
>>''BIO,'' were recognized by the Secretary in December 2007. The Hospital
>>Availability Exchange Standard (HAVE), which was referenced in the HITSP
>  >Interoperability Specification, was not ready for secretarial
>>recognition in
>>June 2008 as anticipated, but since its content has been previously
>>included
>>in the accepted HITSP Interoperability
>>
>>Specifications and it has achieved final ballot by the Standards
>  >Development
>>Organization, it is being recognized. ..."
>>
>>It does not mention OASIS nor a full specification title, though it does
>>mention "... the Standards Development Organization," and it says that
>>has
>>been accepted and it is being recognized even though it wasn't ready in
>>June
>>2008. However, it is not specifically listed as the other OASIS
>>standards
>>are. For example EDXL-DE is listed as:
>>
>>"... (OASIS) Emergency Data Exchange Language (EDXL)Distribution
>>Element(DE)
>>.."
>>
>>EDXL-HAVE is also not found on the HITSP website for Biosurveillance
>>Standards
>>http://www.hitsp.org/InteroperabilitySet_Details.aspx?MasterIS=true
>><http://www.hitsp.org/InteroperabilitySet_Details.aspx?MasterIS=true&Int
>>e>
>>&InteroperabilityId=49&PrefixAlpha=1&APrefix=IS&PrefixNumeric=02
>>among the specifications listed when you expand all versions, but is
>>included in the HITSP Acronyms.
>>
>>   Steve
>>____________________________________________
>>Stephen P. Hufnagel, Ph.D., Co-chair, HITSP Provider Perspective TC
>>The Informatics Applications Group (TIAG) contractor, supporting
>>      The Military Health System (MHS),
>>      Integrated Requirements and Design (IRD) Directorate
>>      5109 Leesburg Pike, Skyline 6, Suite 508E, Falls Church, VA  22041,
>>      703-681-7730-desk Stephen.Hufnagel.ctr@tma.osd.mil
>>
>>TIAG Office: 1760 Reston Parkway, Suite 510,
>>               Reston, VA 20190, 703 437 7878, Shufnagel@tiag.net
>>US Mail:     PO Box 8097, Falls Church, VA 22041,
>>               703-575-7912-mobile, 703-995-0841-eFAX, Hufnagel@acm.org
>>
>>Theodore Roosevelt (Paris Sorbonne, 1910): "It is not the critic who
>>counts,
>>not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the
>>doer of
>>deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is
>>actually
>>in the arena; whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood; who
>>strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows
>>the
>>great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy
>>course; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high
>>achievement,
>>and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly; so
>>that
>>his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know
>>neither
>>victory or defeat."
>>
>>HITSP Collaboration Wiki at www.HITSP.wikispaces.com
>>Healthcare SOA Reference Architecture HL7 project site at
>>          http://hssp.wikispaces.com/Reference+Architecture
>>
>>    _____
>>
>>From: David Aylward (Comcare) [mailto:daylward@comcare.org]
>>Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 12:26 PM
>>To: SHufnagel@tiag.net
>>Cc: mglickman@cnainc.com
>>Subject: RE: OASIS EDXL HAVE
>>
>>
>>
>>Thanks.   I didn't think the OASIS standards in ER-EHR would have been
>>changed without one of you hollering at me.
>>
>>
>>
>>Would you know about the Population folks?  That is where HAVE was first
>>brought up within HITSP, and where there had been some resistance.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>David K. Aylward, Director
>>
>>COMCARE Emergency Response Alliance
>>
>>1351 Independence Court, SE
>>
>>Washington, DC 20003
>>
>>202.255.3215 (mobile)
>>202.429.0574 (office)
>>
>>202.521-4047 (fax)
>>
>>daylward@comcare.org <mailto:daylward@comcare.org>
>>
>>
>>
>>This communication is intended for the use of the recipient to which it
>>is
>>addressed, and may contain confidential, personal and/or privileged
>>information. Please contact us immediately if you are not the intended
>>recipient of this communication, and do not copy, distribute, or take
>>action
>>relying on it. Any communication received in error, or subsequent reply,
>>should be deleted or destroyed.
>>
>>
>>
>>    _____
>>
>>From: Steve Hufnagel [mailto:SHufnagel@Tiag.net]
>>Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 12:23 PM
>>To: David Aylward
>>Cc: mglickman@cnainc.com
>>Subject: RE: OASIS EDXL HAVE
>>
>>
>>
>>No, it has NOT been dropped.
>>
>>
>>
>>*        C47
>><http://www.hitsp.org/ConstructSet_Details.aspx?&PrefixAlpha=4&PrefixNum
>  >eric
>>=47> Resource Utilization Message Component - The Resource Utilization
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>>utilization
>>and status of health provider resources to public health agencies. C47
>  >implements the Emergency Data Exchange Language (EDXL) Hospital
>>AVailability
>>Exchange (HAVE) Version 1.0 OASIS Standard.
>>
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>><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
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>>12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I think we have gotten to the =
>>bottom of
>>the HAVE pile, thanks to <st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">Steve =
>>Hufnagel</st1:PersonName>.
>>&nbsp;The bottom line is that HAVE is a recognized (federally required)
>>standard by HHS and the HITSP process (along with our other OASIS EDXL =
>>standards
>>and CAP). &nbsp;&nbsp;The email to me from <st1:PersonName =
>>w:st=3D"on">Steve
>>   Hufnagel</st1:PersonName> below explains the details on how clerical =
>>errors
>>have created confusion. &nbsp;I am pursuing the last point: getting HAVE
>>=
>>listed
>>on part of the HITSP website where it is not now listed. =
>>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>
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>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:
>>12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>If more needs to be done, please =
>>let me
>>know.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>
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>>K.
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>>
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>><st1:PersonName
>>w:st=3D"on">Steve Hufnagel</st1:PersonName> [mailto:SHufnagel@Tiag.net]
>>=
>><br>
>><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, February
>>=
>>26, 2009
>>12:31 PM<br>
>><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName =
>>w:st=3D"on">David
>>   Aylward</st1:PersonName><br>
>><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> =
>>mglickman@cnainc.com<br>
>><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: OASIS EDXL =
>>HAVE</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
>>
>></div>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:
>>12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:
>>10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>They continue to use it. The =
>>confusion
>>came up in the HHS publication in the federal register =
>>&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
>  >face=3D"Courier New"><span
>>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Below is the =
>>message I
>>caught from David Webber on Sat. Jan. 24. Sorry we didn't get back to =
>  >this
>>sooner, but we have all been busy. The link in the message below, =
>>repeated here
>>&lt;<a =
>>href=3D"http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2009/pdf/E9-1068.pdf";>http://edock
>>e=
>>t.access.gpo.gov/2009/pdf/E9-1068.pdf</a>&gt;http://edocket.access.gpo.g
>>o=
>>v/2009/pdf/E9-1068.pdf<font
>>color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'> </span></font>downloads the pdf
>>=
>>of the
>>Federal Register entry in question.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
>>face=3D"Courier New"><span
>>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
>>New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
>>face=3D"Courier New"><span
>>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>I double checked =
>>and
>>actually found a reference to (HAVE) without EDXL at the bottom of =
>>column 1 and
>>top of column 2 on page three:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
>>face=3D"Courier New"><span
>>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
>>New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
>>face=3D"Courier New"><span
>>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>&quot;... The
>>Interoperability Standards<font color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'>
>>=
>></span></font>associated
>>with the HITSP<font color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'> =
>></span></font>Biosurveillance
>>Interoperability<font color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'> =
>></span></font>Specification
>>(HITSP v2 2007 IS02), or<font color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'> =
>></span></font>''BIO,''
>>were recognized by the Secretary in December 2007. The Hospital =
>>Availability
>>Exchange Standard (HAVE), which was referenced in the HITSP =
>>Interoperability
>>Specification, was not ready for secretarial recognition in June<font
>>color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'> </span></font>2008 as =
>>anticipated, but
>>since its<font color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'> =
>></span></font>content has
>>been previously included in<font color=3Dblue><span =
>>style=3D'color:blue'> </span></font>the
>>accepted HITSP Interoperability<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
>>face=3D"Courier New"><span
>>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Specifications and
>>=
>>it has
>>achieved final ballot by the Standards Development Organization, it is =
>>being
>>recognized. ...&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
>>face=3D"Courier New"><span
>>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
>>New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
>>face=3D"Courier New"><span
>>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>It does not mention
>>=
>>OASIS
>>nor a full specification title, though it does mention &quot;... the =
>>Standards
>>Development Organization,&quot; and it says that has been accepted and =
>>it is
>>being recognized even though it wasn't ready in June 2008. However, it =
>>is not
>>specifically listed as the other OASIS standards are. For example =
>>EDXL-DE is
>>listed as:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
>>face=3D"Courier New"><span
>>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
>>New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
>>face=3D"Courier New"><span
>>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>&quot;... (OASIS) =
>>Emergency
>>Data Exchange<font color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'> =
>></span></font>Language
>>(EDXL)Distribution Element</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier =
>>New"><span
>>lang=3DFR style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>(DE) =
>  >..&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
>>face=3D"Courier New"><span
>>lang=3DFR style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
>  >New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
>>face=3D"Courier New"><span
>>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>EDXL-HAVE is also =
>>not found
>>on the HITSP website for Biosurveillance Standards <a
>>href=3D"http://www.hitsp.org/InteroperabilitySet_Details.aspx?MasterIS=3
>>D=
>>true&amp;Inte">http://www.hitsp.org/InteroperabilitySet_Details.aspx?Mas
>>t=
>>erIS=3Dtrue&amp;Inte</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
>>face=3D"Courier New"><span
>>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
>>New"'>roperabilityId=3D49&amp;PrefixAlpha=3D1&amp;APrefix=3DIS&amp;Prefi
>>x=
>>Numeric=3D02<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
>>face=3D"Courier New"><span
>>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>among the =
>>specifications
>>listed when you expand all versions, but is included in the HITSP =
>>Acronyms.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:
>>10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:
>>10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><div>
>>
>><p><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
>>Arial;color:navy'>Steve</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span =
>>style=3D'color:navy'>
>><br>
>></span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
>>font-family:Arial;color:navy'>__________________________________________
>>_=
>>_ </span></font><font
>>color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><br>
>></span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
>>font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Stephen P. Hufnagel, Ph.D., Co-chair, =
>>HITSP
>>Provider Perspective TC</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span =
>>style=3D'color:navy'>
>><br>
>></span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
>>font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The Informatics Applications Group (TIAG)
>>contractor, supporting </span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span =
>>style=3D'color:navy'><br>
>></span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
>>font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Military Health =
>>System
>>(MHS), </span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><br>
>></span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
>>font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Integrated Requirements
>>=
>>and
>>Design (IRD) Directorate</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span =
>>style=3D'color:navy'>
>><br>
>></span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
>>font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 5109 Leesburg Pike, =
>>Skyline 6,
>>Suite 508E, Falls Church, VA&nbsp; 22041, </span></font><font =
>>color=3Dnavy><span
>>style=3D'color:navy'><br>
>></span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
>>font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 703-681-7730-desk =
>><st1:PersonName
>>w:st=3D"on">Stephen.Hufnagel.ctr@tma.osd.mil</st1:PersonName></span></fo
>>n=
>>t><font
>>color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
>>Arial;color:navy'>TIAG Office: <st1:address w:st=3D"on"><st1:Street =
>>w:st=3D"on">1760
>>    Reston Parkway, Suite 510</st1:Street>, <font size=3D3 face=3D"Times =
>>New Roman"><span
>>   style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><br>
>>   =
>></span></font>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs
>  >p=
>>;&nbsp;&nbsp;
>>   <st1:City w:st=3D"on">Reston</st1:City>, <st1:State =
>>w:st=3D"on">VA</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode
>>   w:st=3D"on">20190</st1:PostalCode></st1:address>, 703 437 7878,
>>Shufnagel@tiag.net</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span =
>  >style=3D'color:navy'> <br>
>></span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
>>font-family:Arial;color:navy'>US Mail:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
>><st1:address
>>w:st=3D"on"><st1:Street w:st=3D"on">PO Box 8097</st1:Street>, <st1:City
>>=
>>w:st=3D"on">Falls
>>    Church</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st=3D"on">VA</st1:State> =
>><st1:PostalCode w:st=3D"on">22041</st1:PostalCode></st1:address>,
>></span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><br>
>></span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
>>font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
>>&=
>>nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
>>703-575-7912-mobile, 703-995-0841-eFAX, =
>>Hufnagel@acm.org</span></font><font
>>color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
>>Arial;color:navy'>Theodore Roosevelt (Paris Sorbonne, 1910): &quot;It is
>>=
>>not
>>the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man =
>>stumbled,
>>or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to
>>=
>>the
>>man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by the dust and =
>>sweat
>>and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and =
>>again; who
>>knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a
>>=
>>worthy
>>course; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high =
>>achievement, and
>>who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly; so that
>>=
>>his
>>place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither =
>>victory
>>or defeat.&quot;</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span =
>>style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
>>Arial;color:navy'>HITSP Collaboration Wiki at =
>>www.HITSP.wikispaces.com</span></font><font
>>color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'> <br>
>></span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
>>font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Healthcare SOA Reference Architecture HL7
>>=
>>project
>>site at</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'> <br>
>></span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
>>font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
>>=
>><a
>>href=3D"http://hssp.wikispaces.com/Reference+Architecture";>http://hssp.w
>>i=
>>kispaces.com/Reference+Architecture</a></span></font><font
>>color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
>>
>></div>
>>
>><div>
>>
>><div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><font
>>=
>>size=3D3
>>face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>
>>
>><hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabindex=3D-1>
>>
>></span></font></div>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
>>font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font =
>>size=3D2
>>face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> =
>><st1:PersonName
>>w:st=3D"on">David Aylward</st1:PersonName> (Comcare) =
>>[mailto:daylward@comcare.org]
>><br>
>><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, February
>>=
>>26, 2009
>>12:26 PM<br>
>><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
>>SHufnagel@tiag.net<br>
>><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> =
>>mglickman@cnainc.com<br>
>><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: OASIS EDXL =
>>HAVE</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
>>
>></div>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:
>>12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
>  >style=3D'font-size:
>>12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Thanks.&nbsp; &nbsp;I didn&#8217;t
>>=
>>think
>>the OASIS standards in ER-EHR would have been changed without one of you
>>=
>>hollering
>>at me.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
>  >style=3D'font-size:
>>12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:
>>12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Would you know about the Population
>>=
>>folks?
>>&nbsp;That is where HAVE was first brought up within HITSP, and where =
>>there had
>>been some resistance. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:
>>12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><div>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal =
>>style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
>>size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;
>>color:blue'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D4 color=3Dblue face=3D"Trebuchet =
>>MS"><span
>>style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:blue'>David =
>>K.
>>Aylward, Director<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D4 color=3Dblue face=3D"Trebuchet =
>>MS"><span
>>style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:blue'>COMCARE
>>Emergency Response <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:City =
>>w:st=3D"on">Alliance</st1:City></st1:place>&nbsp;
>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:Street =
>>w:st=3D"on"><st1:address
>>    tabIndex=3D"0"
>>    style=3D"BACKGROUND-POSITION: left bottom; BACKGROUND-IMAGE: =
>>url(res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001); BACKGROUND-REPEAT: repeat-x"
>>    w:st=3D"on"><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:
>>     12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:blue'>1351 Independence =
>>Court, SE</span></font></st1:address></st1:Street></st1:place><font
>>color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal><ns0:State><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:City =
>>w:st=3D"on"><font
>>    size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;
>>    font-family:"Trebuchet =
>>MS";color:blue'>Washington</ns0:State></span></font></st1:City><font
>>   color=3Dblue face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
>>style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS";
>>   color:blue'>, <ns0:State><ns0:State><st1:State =
>>w:st=3D"on">DC</ns0:State></ns0:State></st1:State>
>>   <ns0:PostalCode><st1:PostalCode =
>>w:st=3D"on">20003</ns0:PostalCode></st1:PostalCode></span></font></st1:p
>>l=
>>ace><font
>>color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal><ns0:PostalCode></ns0:PostalCode><font size=3D3 =
>>color=3Dblue
>>face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";
>>color:blue'>202.255.3215 (mobile)<br>
>>202.429.0574&nbsp;(office)</span></font><font color=3Dblue><span
>>style=3D'color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3D"Trebuchet =
>>MS"><span
>>style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
>>MS";color:blue'>202.521-4047
>>(fax)</span></font><font color=3Dblue><span =
>>style=3D'color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal><u><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3D"Trebuchet =
>>MS"><span
>>style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
>>MS";color:blue'>daylward</span></font></u><font
>>color=3Dblue face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet
>>=
>>MS";
>>color:blue'><a href=3D"mailto:daylward@comcare.org";
>>title=3D"mailto:cturman@natstrat.com";>@comcare.org</a></span></font><fon
>>t=
>>
>>color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3D"Times New =
>>Roman"><span
>>style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p
>>>=
>>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal =
>>style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
>  >size=3D1 color=3Dblue face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;font-family:
>>"Trebuchet MS";color:blue'>This communic<st1:PersonName =
>>w:st=3D"on">at</st1:PersonName>ion
>>is intended for the use of the recipient to which it is addressed, and =
>  >may
>>contain confidential, personal and/or privileged inform<st1:PersonName =
>>w:st=3D"on">at</st1:PersonName>ion.
>>Please contact us immedi<st1:PersonName =
>>w:st=3D"on">at</st1:PersonName>ely if you
>>are not the intended recipient of this communic<st1:PersonName =
>>w:st=3D"on">at</st1:PersonName>ion,
>>and do not copy, distribute, or take action relying on it. Any =
>>communic<st1:PersonName
>>w:st=3D"on">at</st1:PersonName>ion received in error, or subsequent =
>>reply, should
>>be deleted or destroyed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>></div>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:
>>12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><div>
>>
>><div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><font
>>=
>>size=3D3
>>face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>
>>
>><hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabindex=3D-1>
>>
>></span></font></div>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
>>font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font =
>>size=3D2
>>face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> =
>><st1:PersonName
>>w:st=3D"on">Steve Hufnagel</st1:PersonName> [mailto:SHufnagel@Tiag.net]
>>=
>><br>
>><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, February
>>=
>>26, 2009
>>12:23 PM<br>
>><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName =
>>w:st=3D"on">David
>>   Aylward</st1:PersonName><br>
>><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> =
>>mglickman@cnainc.com<br>
>><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: OASIS EDXL =
>>HAVE</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
>>
>></div>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:
>>12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:
>>10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>No, it has NOT been =
>>dropped.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
>>style=3D'font-size:
>>10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>><p class=3DMsoNormal =
>>style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;line-height:115%;
>>mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font size=3D3 =
>>face=3DSymbol><span
>>style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Symbol'><span
>>style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>&middot;<font size=3D1 face=3D"Times New =
>>Roman"><span
>>style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
>>Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
>></span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><u>C47 <a
>>href=3D"http://www.hitsp.org/ConstructSet_Details.aspx?&amp;PrefixAlpha=
>>3D=
>>4&amp;PrefixNumeric=3D47"><font
>>color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>Resource Utilization =
>>Message
>>Component</span></font></a></u> - The Resource Utilization Component =
>>specifies
>>the message and content necessary to report utilization and status of =
>>health
>>provider resources to public health agencies. C47 implements the =
>>Emergency Data
>>Exchange Language (EDXL) Hospital AVailability Exchange (HAVE) Version =
>>1.0
>>OASIS Standard.<o:p></o:p></p>
>>
>></div>
>>
>></body>
>>
>></html>
>>
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>
>
>--
>Rex Brooks
>President, CEO
>Starbourne Communications Design
>GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison
>Berkeley, CA 94702
>Tel: 510-898-0670


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Rex Brooks
President, CEO
Starbourne Communications Design
GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison
Berkeley, CA 94702
Tel: 510-898-0670


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