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Subject: RE: HAVE
Agreed. Cheers, Rex At 7:41 PM -0500 2/26/09, David Aylward \(Comcare\) wrote: >This could have been avoided with more care by the writers of the Federal >Register entry and the HITSP website. I don't like standards we have >sweated for to be perceived as second fiddle, but I care more that they are >a federal requirement. > > >David K. Aylward, Director >COMCARE Emergency Response Alliance >1351 Independence Court, SE >Washington, DC 20003 >202.255.3215 (mobile) >202.429.0574 (office) >202.521-4047 (fax) >daylward@comcare.org > >This communication is intended for the use of the recipient to which it is >addressed, and may contain confidential, personal and/or privileged >information. Please contact us immediately if you are not the intended >recipient of this communication, and do not copy, distribute, or take action >relying on it. Any communication received in error, or subsequent reply, >should be deleted or destroyed. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Rex Brooks [mailto:rexb@starbourne.com] >Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 2:45 PM >To: David Aylward; Rex Brooks >Cc: emergency@lists.oasis-open.org; Brett Trusko; David RR Webber (XML) >Subject: Re: HAVE > >Thanks very much, David, > >I am copying the TC list with this reply. Sorry I didn't get my reply >to your earlier question off earlier. Today is managing to hit a new >high in maximum multi-tasking, and resultant delays in prompt replies. > >This is very helpful. I am also copying some other other interested >parties, to indicate that EDXL-HAVE is no longer a specific issue. > >I really appreciate having this cleared up. > >Cheers, >Rex > >At 12:20 PM -0600 2/26/09, David Aylward wrote: >>Rex: >> >>Can you circulate this to the OASIS list please? >> >> >> >> >> >>I think we have gotten to the bottom of the HAVE pile, thanks to Steve >>Hufnagel. The bottom line is that HAVE is a recognized (federally >>required) >>standard by HHS and the HITSP process (along with our other OASIS EDXL >>standards and CAP). The email to me from Steve Hufnagel below explains >>the >>details on how clerical errors have created confusion. I am pursuing >>the >>last point: getting HAVE listed on part of the HITSP website where it is >>not >>now listed. >> >>If more needs to be done, please let me know. >> >> >> David K. Aylward, Director >>COMCARE Emergency Response Alliance >>1351 Independence Court, SE >>Washington, DC 20003 >>202.255.3215 (mobile) >>202.429.0574 (office) >>202.521-4047 (fax) >>daylward@comcare.org <mailto:daylward@comcare.org> >> >> >> _____ >> >>From: Steve Hufnagel [mailto:SHufnagel@Tiag.net] >>Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 12:31 PM >>To: David Aylward >>Cc: mglickman@cnainc.com >>Subject: RE: OASIS EDXL HAVE >> >> >>They continue to use it. The confusion came up in the HHS publication in >>the >>federal register . >> >>Below is the message I caught from David Webber on Sat. Jan. 24. Sorry >>we >>didn't get back to this sooner, but we have all been busy. The link in >>the >>message below, repeated here >><http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2009/pdf/E9-1068.pdf>http://edocket.acces >>s.gp >>o.gov/2009/pdf/E9-1068.pdf downloads the pdf of the Federal Register >>entry >>in question. >> >> I double checked and actually found a reference to (HAVE) without EDXL >>at >>the bottom of column 1 and top of column 2 on page three: >> >>"... The Interoperability Standards associated with the HITSP >>Biosurveillance Interoperability Specification (HITSP v2 2007 IS02), or >>''BIO,'' were recognized by the Secretary in December 2007. The Hospital >>Availability Exchange Standard (HAVE), which was referenced in the HITSP > >Interoperability Specification, was not ready for secretarial >>recognition in >>June 2008 as anticipated, but since its content has been previously >>included >>in the accepted HITSP Interoperability >> >>Specifications and it has achieved final ballot by the Standards > >Development >>Organization, it is being recognized. ..." >> >>It does not mention OASIS nor a full specification title, though it does >>mention "... the Standards Development Organization," and it says that >>has >>been accepted and it is being recognized even though it wasn't ready in >>June >>2008. However, it is not specifically listed as the other OASIS >>standards >>are. For example EDXL-DE is listed as: >> >>"... (OASIS) Emergency Data Exchange Language (EDXL)Distribution >>Element(DE) >>.." >> >>EDXL-HAVE is also not found on the HITSP website for Biosurveillance >>Standards >>http://www.hitsp.org/InteroperabilitySet_Details.aspx?MasterIS=true >><http://www.hitsp.org/InteroperabilitySet_Details.aspx?MasterIS=true&Int >>e> >>&InteroperabilityId=49&PrefixAlpha=1&APrefix=IS&PrefixNumeric=02 >>among the specifications listed when you expand all versions, but is >>included in the HITSP Acronyms. >> >> Steve >>____________________________________________ >>Stephen P. Hufnagel, Ph.D., Co-chair, HITSP Provider Perspective TC >>The Informatics Applications Group (TIAG) contractor, supporting >> The Military Health System (MHS), >> Integrated Requirements and Design (IRD) Directorate >> 5109 Leesburg Pike, Skyline 6, Suite 508E, Falls Church, VA 22041, >> 703-681-7730-desk Stephen.Hufnagel.ctr@tma.osd.mil >> >>TIAG Office: 1760 Reston Parkway, Suite 510, >> Reston, VA 20190, 703 437 7878, Shufnagel@tiag.net >>US Mail: PO Box 8097, Falls Church, VA 22041, >> 703-575-7912-mobile, 703-995-0841-eFAX, Hufnagel@acm.org >> >>Theodore Roosevelt (Paris Sorbonne, 1910): "It is not the critic who >>counts, >>not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the >>doer of >>deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is >>actually >>in the arena; whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood; who >>strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows >>the >>great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy >>course; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high >>achievement, >>and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly; so >>that >>his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know >>neither >>victory or defeat." >> >>HITSP Collaboration Wiki at www.HITSP.wikispaces.com >>Healthcare SOA Reference Architecture HL7 project site at >> http://hssp.wikispaces.com/Reference+Architecture >> >> _____ >> >>From: David Aylward (Comcare) [mailto:daylward@comcare.org] >>Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 12:26 PM >>To: SHufnagel@tiag.net >>Cc: mglickman@cnainc.com >>Subject: RE: OASIS EDXL HAVE >> >> >> >>Thanks. I didn't think the OASIS standards in ER-EHR would have been >>changed without one of you hollering at me. >> >> >> >>Would you know about the Population folks? That is where HAVE was first >>brought up within HITSP, and where there had been some resistance. >> >> >> >> >> >>David K. Aylward, Director >> >>COMCARE Emergency Response Alliance >> >>1351 Independence Court, SE >> >>Washington, DC 20003 >> >>202.255.3215 (mobile) >>202.429.0574 (office) >> >>202.521-4047 (fax) >> >>daylward@comcare.org <mailto:daylward@comcare.org> >> >> >> >>This communication is intended for the use of the recipient to which it >>is >>addressed, and may contain confidential, personal and/or privileged >>information. Please contact us immediately if you are not the intended >>recipient of this communication, and do not copy, distribute, or take >>action >>relying on it. Any communication received in error, or subsequent reply, >>should be deleted or destroyed. >> >> >> >> _____ >> >>From: Steve Hufnagel [mailto:SHufnagel@Tiag.net] >>Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 12:23 PM >>To: David Aylward >>Cc: mglickman@cnainc.com >>Subject: RE: OASIS EDXL HAVE >> >> >> >>No, it has NOT been dropped. >> >> >> >>* C47 >><http://www.hitsp.org/ConstructSet_Details.aspx?&PrefixAlpha=4&PrefixNum > >eric >>=47> Resource Utilization Message Component - The Resource Utilization >>Component specifies the message and content necessary to report >>utilization >>and status of health provider resources to public health agencies. C47 > >implements the Emergency Data Exchange Language (EDXL) Hospital >>AVailability >>Exchange (HAVE) Version 1.0 OASIS Standard. >> >> >>------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C99814.6D2503C0 >>Content-Type: text/html; >> charset="us-ascii" >>Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> >><html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = >>xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = >>xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = >>xmlns:st1=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = >>xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> >> >><head> >><meta http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = >>charset=3Dus-ascii"> >><meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> >><!--[if !mso]> >><style> >>v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} >>o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} >>w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} >>.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} >></style> >><![endif]--><o:SmartTagType >> namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = >>name=3D"PostalCode"/> >><o:SmartTagType = >>namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" >> name=3D"Street"/> >><o:SmartTagType = >>namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" >> name=3D"address"/> >><o:SmartTagType = >>namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" >> name=3D"State"/> >><o:SmartTagType = >>namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" >> name=3D"City"/> >><o:SmartTagType = >>namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" >> name=3D"place"/> >><o:SmartTagType = >>namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" >> name=3D"PersonName"/> >><!--[if !mso]> >><style> >>st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } >></style> >><![endif]--> >><style> >><!-- >> /* Font Definitions */ >> @font-face >> {font-family:Tahoma; 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>> mso-level-text:\F0B7; >> mso-level-tab-stop:none; > > mso-level-number-position:left; >> text-indent:-.25in; >> font-family:Symbol;} >>@list l0:level2 >> {mso-level-tab-stop:1.0in; >> mso-level-number-position:left; >> text-indent:-.25in;} >>@list l0:level3 >> {mso-level-tab-stop:1.5in; > > mso-level-number-position:left; >> text-indent:-.25in;} >>@list l0:level4 >> {mso-level-tab-stop:2.0in; >> mso-level-number-position:left; >> text-indent:-.25in;} >>@list l0:level5 >> {mso-level-tab-stop:2.5in; >> mso-level-number-position:left; >> text-indent:-.25in;} >>@list l0:level6 >> {mso-level-tab-stop:3.0in; >> mso-level-number-position:left; >> text-indent:-.25in;} >>@list l0:level7 >> {mso-level-tab-stop:3.5in; >> mso-level-number-position:left; >> text-indent:-.25in;} >>@list l0:level8 >> {mso-level-tab-stop:4.0in; >> mso-level-number-position:left; >> text-indent:-.25in;} >>@list l0:level9 >> {mso-level-tab-stop:4.5in; >> mso-level-number-position:left; >> text-indent:-.25in;} >>ol >> {margin-bottom:0in;} >>ul >> {margin-bottom:0in;} >>--> >></style> >><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> >> <o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" /> >></xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> >> <o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit"> >> <o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" /> >> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--> >></head> >> >><body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dblue> >> >><div class=3DSection1> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = >>style=3D'font-size: >>12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = >>style=3D'font-size: >>12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I think we have gotten to the = >>bottom of >>the HAVE pile, thanks to <st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">Steve = >>Hufnagel</st1:PersonName>. >> The bottom line is that HAVE is a recognized (federally required) >>standard by HHS and the HITSP process (along with our other OASIS EDXL = >>standards >>and CAP). The email to me from <st1:PersonName = >>w:st=3D"on">Steve >> Hufnagel</st1:PersonName> below explains the details on how clerical = >>errors >>have created confusion. I am pursuing the last point: getting HAVE >>= >>listed >>on part of the HITSP website where it is not now listed. = >> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = >>style=3D'font-size: >>12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = >>style=3D'font-size: >>12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>If more needs to be done, please = >>let me >>know.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = >>style=3D'font-size: >>12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> >> >><div> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal = >>style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font >>size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = >>style=3D'font-size:12.0pt; >>color:blue'> </span></font><font size=3D4 color=3Dblue = >>face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span >>style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:blue'>David = >>K. >>Aylward, Director<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D4 color=3Dblue face=3D"Trebuchet = >>MS"><span >>style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:blue'>COMCARE >>Emergency Response <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:City = >>w:st=3D"on">Alliance</st1:City></st1:place> >><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:Street = >>w:st=3D"on"><st1:address >> tabIndex=3D"0" >> style=3D"BACKGROUND-POSITION: left bottom; BACKGROUND-IMAGE: = >>url(res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001); BACKGROUND-REPEAT: repeat-x" >> w:st=3D"on"><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span = >>style=3D'font-size: >> 12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:blue'>1351 Independence = >>Court, SE</span></font></st1:address></st1:Street></st1:place><font >>color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><ns0:State><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:City = >>w:st=3D"on"><font >> size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span = > >style=3D'font-size:12.0pt; >> font-family:"Trebuchet = >>MS";color:blue'>Washington</ns0:State></span></font></st1:City><font >> color=3Dblue face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span = >>style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS"; > > color:blue'>, <ns0:State><ns0:State><st1:State = >>w:st=3D"on">DC</ns0:State></ns0:State></st1:State> >> <ns0:PostalCode><st1:PostalCode = >>w:st=3D"on">20003</ns0:PostalCode></st1:PostalCode></span></font></st1:p >>l= >>ace><font >>color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><ns0:PostalCode></ns0:PostalCode><font size=3D3 = >>color=3Dblue >>face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span = >>style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"; >>color:blue'>202.255.3215 (mobile)<br> >>202.429.0574 (office)</span></font><font color=3Dblue><span >>style=3D'color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3D"Trebuchet = >>MS"><span >>style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet = >>MS";color:blue'>202.521-4047 >>(fax)</span></font><font color=3Dblue><span = >>style=3D'color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><u><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3D"Trebuchet = >>MS"><span >>style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet = >>MS";color:blue'>daylward</span></font></u><font >>color=3Dblue face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet >>= >>MS"; >>color:blue'><a href=3D"mailto:daylward@comcare.org" >>title=3D"mailto:cturman@natstrat.com">@comcare.org</a></span></font><fon >>t= >> >>color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3D"Times New = >>Roman"><span >>style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p >>>= >> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal = >>style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font >>size=3D1 color=3Dblue face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span = >>style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;font-family: >>"Trebuchet MS";color:blue'>This communic<st1:PersonName = >>w:st=3D"on">at</st1:PersonName>ion >>is intended for the use of the recipient to which it is addressed, and = >>may >>contain confidential, personal and/or privileged inform<st1:PersonName = >>w:st=3D"on">at</st1:PersonName>ion. >>Please contact us immedi<st1:PersonName = >>w:st=3D"on">at</st1:PersonName>ely if you >>are not the intended recipient of this communic<st1:PersonName = >>w:st=3D"on">at</st1:PersonName>ion, >>and do not copy, distribute, or take action relying on it. Any = >>communic<st1:PersonName >>w:st=3D"on">at</st1:PersonName>ion received in error, or subsequent = >>reply, should >>be deleted or destroyed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >></div> >> >><div> >> >><div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><font >>= >>size=3D3 >>face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> >> >><hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabindex=3D-1> >> >></span></font></div> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span = >>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; >>font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font = >>size=3D2 >>face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> = >><st1:PersonName >>w:st=3D"on">Steve Hufnagel</st1:PersonName> [mailto:SHufnagel@Tiag.net] >>= >><br> >><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, February >>= >>26, 2009 >>12:31 PM<br> >><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName = >>w:st=3D"on">David >> Aylward</st1:PersonName><br> >><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> = >>mglickman@cnainc.com<br> >><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: OASIS EDXL = >>HAVE</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> >> >></div> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = >>style=3D'font-size: >>12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = >>style=3D'font-size: >>10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>They continue to use it. The = >>confusion >>came up in the HHS publication in the federal register = >>…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 = > >face=3D"Courier New"><span >>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Below is the = >>message I >>caught from David Webber on Sat. Jan. 24. Sorry we didn't get back to = > >this >>sooner, but we have all been busy. The link in the message below, = >>repeated here >><<a = >>href=3D"http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2009/pdf/E9-1068.pdf">http://edock >>e= >>t.access.gpo.gov/2009/pdf/E9-1068.pdf</a>>http://edocket.access.gpo.g >>o= >>v/2009/pdf/E9-1068.pdf<font >>color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'> </span></font>downloads the pdf >>= >>of the >>Federal Register entry in question.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 = >>face=3D"Courier New"><span >>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier = >>New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 = >>face=3D"Courier New"><span >>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>I double checked = >>and >>actually found a reference to (HAVE) without EDXL at the bottom of = >>column 1 and >>top of column 2 on page three:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 = >>face=3D"Courier New"><span >>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier = >>New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 = >>face=3D"Courier New"><span >>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>"... The >>Interoperability Standards<font color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'> >>= >></span></font>associated >>with the HITSP<font color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'> = >></span></font>Biosurveillance >>Interoperability<font color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'> = >></span></font>Specification >>(HITSP v2 2007 IS02), or<font color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'> = >></span></font>''BIO,'' >>were recognized by the Secretary in December 2007. The Hospital = >>Availability >>Exchange Standard (HAVE), which was referenced in the HITSP = >>Interoperability >>Specification, was not ready for secretarial recognition in June<font >>color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'> </span></font>2008 as = >>anticipated, but >>since its<font color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'> = >></span></font>content has >>been previously included in<font color=3Dblue><span = >>style=3D'color:blue'> </span></font>the >>accepted HITSP Interoperability<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 = >>face=3D"Courier New"><span >>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Specifications and >>= >>it has >>achieved final ballot by the Standards Development Organization, it is = >>being >>recognized. ..."<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 = >>face=3D"Courier New"><span >>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier = >>New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 = >>face=3D"Courier New"><span >>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>It does not mention >>= >>OASIS >>nor a full specification title, though it does mention "... the = >>Standards >>Development Organization," and it says that has been accepted and = >>it is >>being recognized even though it wasn't ready in June 2008. However, it = >>is not >>specifically listed as the other OASIS standards are. For example = >>EDXL-DE is >>listed as:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 = >>face=3D"Courier New"><span >>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier = >>New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 = >>face=3D"Courier New"><span >>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>"... (OASIS) = >>Emergency >>Data Exchange<font color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'> = >></span></font>Language >>(EDXL)Distribution Element</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier = >>New"><span >>lang=3DFR style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>(DE) = > >.."<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 = >>face=3D"Courier New"><span >>lang=3DFR style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier = > >New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 = >>face=3D"Courier New"><span >>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>EDXL-HAVE is also = >>not found >>on the HITSP website for Biosurveillance Standards <a >>href=3D"http://www.hitsp.org/InteroperabilitySet_Details.aspx?MasterIS=3 >>D= >>true&Inte">http://www.hitsp.org/InteroperabilitySet_Details.aspx?Mas >>t= >>erIS=3Dtrue&Inte</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 = >>face=3D"Courier New"><span >>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier = >>New"'>roperabilityId=3D49&PrefixAlpha=3D1&APrefix=3DIS&Prefi >>x= >>Numeric=3D02<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 = >>face=3D"Courier New"><span >>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>among the = >>specifications >>listed when you expand all versions, but is included in the HITSP = >>Acronyms.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = >>style=3D'font-size: >>10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = >>style=3D'font-size: >>10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> >> >><div> >> >><p><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = >>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family: >>Arial;color:navy'>Steve</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span = >>style=3D'color:navy'> >><br> >></span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = >>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; >>font-family:Arial;color:navy'>__________________________________________ >>_= >>_ </span></font><font >>color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><br> >></span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = >>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; >>font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Stephen P. Hufnagel, Ph.D., Co-chair, = >>HITSP >>Provider Perspective TC</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span = >>style=3D'color:navy'> >><br> >></span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = >>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; >>font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The Informatics Applications Group (TIAG) >>contractor, supporting </span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span = >>style=3D'color:navy'><br> >></span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = >>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; >>font-family:Arial;color:navy'> The Military Health = >>System >>(MHS), </span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><br> >></span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = >>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; >>font-family:Arial;color:navy'> Integrated Requirements >>= >>and >>Design (IRD) Directorate</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span = >>style=3D'color:navy'> >><br> >></span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = >>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; >>font-family:Arial;color:navy'> 5109 Leesburg Pike, = >>Skyline 6, >>Suite 508E, Falls Church, VA 22041, </span></font><font = >>color=3Dnavy><span >>style=3D'color:navy'><br> >></span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = >>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; >>font-family:Arial;color:navy'> 703-681-7730-desk = >><st1:PersonName >>w:st=3D"on">Stephen.Hufnagel.ctr@tma.osd.mil</st1:PersonName></span></fo >>n= >>t><font >>color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = >>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family: >>Arial;color:navy'>TIAG Office: <st1:address w:st=3D"on"><st1:Street = >>w:st=3D"on">1760 >> Reston Parkway, Suite 510</st1:Street>, <font size=3D3 face=3D"Times = >>New Roman"><span >> style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><br> >> = >></span></font> &nbs > >p= >>; >> <st1:City w:st=3D"on">Reston</st1:City>, <st1:State = >>w:st=3D"on">VA</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode >> w:st=3D"on">20190</st1:PostalCode></st1:address>, 703 437 7878, >>Shufnagel@tiag.net</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span = > >style=3D'color:navy'> <br> >></span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = >>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; >>font-family:Arial;color:navy'>US Mail: = >><st1:address >>w:st=3D"on"><st1:Street w:st=3D"on">PO Box 8097</st1:Street>, <st1:City >>= >>w:st=3D"on">Falls >> Church</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st=3D"on">VA</st1:State> = >><st1:PostalCode w:st=3D"on">22041</st1:PostalCode></st1:address>, >></span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><br> >></span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = >>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; >>font-family:Arial;color:navy'> >>&= >>nbsp; >>703-575-7912-mobile, 703-995-0841-eFAX, = >>Hufnagel@acm.org</span></font><font >>color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = >>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family: >>Arial;color:navy'>Theodore Roosevelt (Paris Sorbonne, 1910): "It is >>= >>not >>the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man = >>stumbled, >>or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to >>= >>the >>man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by the dust and = >>sweat >>and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and = >>again; who >>knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a >>= >>worthy >>course; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high = >>achievement, and >>who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly; so that >>= >>his >>place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither = >>victory >>or defeat."</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span = >>style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = >>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family: >>Arial;color:navy'>HITSP Collaboration Wiki at = >>www.HITSP.wikispaces.com</span></font><font >>color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'> <br> >></span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = >>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; >>font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Healthcare SOA Reference Architecture HL7 >>= >>project >>site at</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'> <br> >></span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = >>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; >>font-family:Arial;color:navy'> >>= >><a >>href=3D"http://hssp.wikispaces.com/Reference+Architecture">http://hssp.w >>i= >>kispaces.com/Reference+Architecture</a></span></font><font >>color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p> >> >></div> >> >><div> >> >><div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><font >>= >>size=3D3 >>face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> >> >><hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabindex=3D-1> >> >></span></font></div> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span = >>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; >>font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font = >>size=3D2 >>face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> = >><st1:PersonName >>w:st=3D"on">David Aylward</st1:PersonName> (Comcare) = >>[mailto:daylward@comcare.org] >><br> >><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, February >>= >>26, 2009 >>12:26 PM<br> >><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> = >>SHufnagel@tiag.net<br> >><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> = >>mglickman@cnainc.com<br> >><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: OASIS EDXL = >>HAVE</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> >> >></div> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = >>style=3D'font-size: >>12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = > >style=3D'font-size: >>12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Thanks. I didn’t >>= >>think >>the OASIS standards in ER-EHR would have been changed without one of you >>= >>hollering >>at me.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = > >style=3D'font-size: >>12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = >>style=3D'font-size: >>12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Would you know about the Population >>= >>folks? >> That is where HAVE was first brought up within HITSP, and where = >>there had >>been some resistance. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = >>style=3D'font-size: >>12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> >> >><div> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal = >>style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font >>size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = >>style=3D'font-size:12.0pt; >>color:blue'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D4 color=3Dblue face=3D"Trebuchet = >>MS"><span >>style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:blue'>David = >>K. >>Aylward, Director<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D4 color=3Dblue face=3D"Trebuchet = >>MS"><span >>style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:blue'>COMCARE >>Emergency Response <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:City = >>w:st=3D"on">Alliance</st1:City></st1:place> >><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:Street = >>w:st=3D"on"><st1:address >> tabIndex=3D"0" >> style=3D"BACKGROUND-POSITION: left bottom; BACKGROUND-IMAGE: = >>url(res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001); BACKGROUND-REPEAT: repeat-x" >> w:st=3D"on"><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span = >>style=3D'font-size: >> 12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:blue'>1351 Independence = >>Court, SE</span></font></st1:address></st1:Street></st1:place><font >>color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><ns0:State><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:City = >>w:st=3D"on"><font >> size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span = >>style=3D'font-size:12.0pt; >> font-family:"Trebuchet = >>MS";color:blue'>Washington</ns0:State></span></font></st1:City><font >> color=3Dblue face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span = >>style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS"; >> color:blue'>, <ns0:State><ns0:State><st1:State = >>w:st=3D"on">DC</ns0:State></ns0:State></st1:State> >> <ns0:PostalCode><st1:PostalCode = >>w:st=3D"on">20003</ns0:PostalCode></st1:PostalCode></span></font></st1:p >>l= >>ace><font >>color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><ns0:PostalCode></ns0:PostalCode><font size=3D3 = >>color=3Dblue >>face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span = >>style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"; >>color:blue'>202.255.3215 (mobile)<br> >>202.429.0574 (office)</span></font><font color=3Dblue><span >>style=3D'color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3D"Trebuchet = >>MS"><span >>style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet = >>MS";color:blue'>202.521-4047 >>(fax)</span></font><font color=3Dblue><span = >>style=3D'color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><u><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3D"Trebuchet = >>MS"><span >>style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet = >>MS";color:blue'>daylward</span></font></u><font >>color=3Dblue face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet >>= >>MS"; >>color:blue'><a href=3D"mailto:daylward@comcare.org" >>title=3D"mailto:cturman@natstrat.com">@comcare.org</a></span></font><fon >>t= >> >>color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3D"Times New = >>Roman"><span >>style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p >>>= >> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal = >>style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font > >size=3D1 color=3Dblue face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span = >>style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;font-family: >>"Trebuchet MS";color:blue'>This communic<st1:PersonName = >>w:st=3D"on">at</st1:PersonName>ion >>is intended for the use of the recipient to which it is addressed, and = > >may >>contain confidential, personal and/or privileged inform<st1:PersonName = >>w:st=3D"on">at</st1:PersonName>ion. >>Please contact us immedi<st1:PersonName = >>w:st=3D"on">at</st1:PersonName>ely if you >>are not the intended recipient of this communic<st1:PersonName = >>w:st=3D"on">at</st1:PersonName>ion, >>and do not copy, distribute, or take action relying on it. Any = >>communic<st1:PersonName >>w:st=3D"on">at</st1:PersonName>ion received in error, or subsequent = >>reply, should >>be deleted or destroyed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >></div> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = >>style=3D'font-size: >>12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> >> >><div> >> >><div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><font >>= >>size=3D3 >>face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> >> >><hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabindex=3D-1> >> >></span></font></div> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span = >>style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; >>font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font = >>size=3D2 >>face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> = >><st1:PersonName >>w:st=3D"on">Steve Hufnagel</st1:PersonName> [mailto:SHufnagel@Tiag.net] >>= >><br> >><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, February >>= >>26, 2009 >>12:23 PM<br> >><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName = >>w:st=3D"on">David >> Aylward</st1:PersonName><br> >><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> = >>mglickman@cnainc.com<br> >><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: OASIS EDXL = >>HAVE</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> >> >></div> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = >>style=3D'font-size: >>12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = >>style=3D'font-size: >>10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>No, it has NOT been = >>dropped.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = >>style=3D'font-size: >>10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> >> >><p class=3DMsoNormal = >>style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;line-height:115%; >>mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font size=3D3 = >>face=3DSymbol><span >>style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Symbol'><span >>style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>·<font size=3D1 face=3D"Times New = >>Roman"><span >>style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New = >>Roman"'> >></span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><u>C47 <a >>href=3D"http://www.hitsp.org/ConstructSet_Details.aspx?&PrefixAlpha= >>3D= >>4&PrefixNumeric=3D47"><font >>color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>Resource Utilization = >>Message >>Component</span></font></a></u> - The Resource Utilization Component = >>specifies >>the message and content necessary to report utilization and status of = >>health >>provider resources to public health agencies. C47 implements the = >>Emergency Data >>Exchange Language (EDXL) Hospital AVailability Exchange (HAVE) Version = >>1.0 >>OASIS Standard.<o:p></o:p></p> >> >></div> >> >></body> >> >></html> >> >>------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C99814.6D2503C0-- > > >-- >Rex Brooks >President, CEO >Starbourne Communications Design >GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison >Berkeley, CA 94702 >Tel: 510-898-0670 -- Rex Brooks President, CEO Starbourne Communications Design GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison Berkeley, CA 94702 Tel: 510-898-0670
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