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Subject: RE: [emergency] NIEM/EDXL Proposals in Support of DHS Funding

Thank you Rex for your email summary, to Jeff for conducting the EM-TC
meeting yesterday in my absence and to you all for the good work you do in
our committees and subcommittees!!  

There are certainly ways where EDXL and NIEM with proper motivation can
coexist, support one another and achieve data interoperability.  I am very
familiar with the white paper you describe and appreciate the good work done
by Lee, Tim, Gary, Don and others in that group to document a possible
solution.  I have reached out to Dr. Griffin with Doug's introduction and
look forward to his response.  

To the point on CAP profiles being taken up by the collateral and documents
SC, I would prefer that we follow our normal path for assigning work to the
SCs.  It is my opinion that first the topic (which is now properly agreed to
be assigned to the RIM-SC by the EM-TC) for guidance have a meeting engaging
all interested parties.  There are several things that need to come from
that group to include guidance and advice to the EM-TC on how profiles of
all EDXL standards should be handled, standards for profile development,
whether a SC for profiles or a profile SC for each standard, and
recommendation on how they should be documented from an adoption
perspective).  The results would be provided to the EM-TC that would
consider asking the EMA-TC to consider submitting any writing/drafting
assignments to the C&D SC.  

With the tremendous amount of work the TCs and SCs have on their plate, the
coordination that must be done to insure work is not duplicated and the
resulting documentation reflects the intent of the developers of the
Standard, as well as the fact that we work under the OASIS process to
accomplish our objectives must all be considered when we choose what time
requirements we are going to put on our volunteer staff.  I'm hopeful that
all interested parties will be present at the RIM meeting 12-1ET Thurs June
28 for this important discussion.

All the best,

Elysa Jones, Chair

-----Original Message-----
From: emergency@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:emergency@lists.oasis-open.org]
On Behalf Of Rex Brooks
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 12:26 PM
To: emergency-adopt-docs@lists.oasis-open.org;
emergency@lists.oasis-open.org; emergency-adopt@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [emergency] NIEM/EDXL Proposals in Support of DHS Funding

Hi Everyone,

Please excuse the duplication, but I used the wrong reply address for OASIS
lists. Otherwise this message is what was delivered to the personal inboxes
of the addresses I have dropped from this mailing.

Elysa, we discussed the issues around your effort to re-engage DHS S&T and
we decided it would be a quick, easy WIN if we could show how EDXL and NIEM
can work together since we are still seeing people assume that these two
efforts are competitors.Doug Allport noted that he had spoken with Robert
Griffin(?) under whose direction S&T funding currently falls, and you and
Doug can fashion an approach that will provide him with the easy WIN he
needs to get S&T back on track with us.

It turns out, as you might recall, that Lee Tincher wrote a White Paper
which could be the basis for showing how NIEM and EDXL can work together.
Gary Ham had several key comments that will almost certainly avoid some
pitfalls if we are careful in that regard. I suggested that a demonstration
in addition to a White paper ought to be especially effective. If Tim's
group could pull that rabbit out their hat, it certainly wouldn't hurt.

Doug Allport had a suggestion involving profiles which might work with the
upcoming RIM SC work on profiles. I would suggest that Tim Grapes and you,
Elysa, would probably be the most knowledgeable about how to pull this
together. I suggested that we take this to the EM Adoption TC and engage the
Collateral and Documents SC for the White Paper portion of the combined

If I have missed anything from today's very active discussion, I encourage
any of you whom I have copied with this message, to point it out. Clearly,
we should take advantage of next week's Collateral and Documents meeting at
noon Eastern on Tuesday the 26th to discuss this.


Rex Brooks
Starbourne Communications Design
Email: rexb@starbourne.com
1361 Addison St. Apt. A
Berkeley, CA 94702
Phone: 510-898-0670

Rex Brooks
1361-A Addison
Berkeley, CA 94702
Phone: 510-898-0670

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