Re: HM.applications-Profiling-Level of Details/Abstraction

[Mark Brownell <gizmotron@earthlink.net>]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Sean B. Palmer 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> > [...] In my own opinion it is the presence of context that some how
> > establishes the characteristics of a magic glue for this kind of purpose.
> 
> It took me a while to wade through your non-standard terminology, but I
> feel that you have come across a very important axiom here. 

Hi Sean,

I'm a self taught programmer that has never encountered XML, SGML 
terminology before. I do now know what extensible means in XML.

> The concepts of
> "contextualization" and "shared meaning" (which is what I think you mean by
> "magic glue"... in fact, I prefer your term!) are very important indeed,
> but are parts of the larger architecture that we must be *aware* of, but
> don't have to specifically write to. In other words, I mean that when
> creating an "SW", we have to keep in mind the fact that we wan our data to
> be interoperable and scale well, but that nothing will be achieved at all
> unless we can build the smaller applications first.
> 

What I mean by magic glue is the ability to restrict information to the best 
accumulation from the full available information. Kind of like a conditional 
selection process.  The glue would select the correct information and the 
depth that reletive information could be added to that selection process.

> [...]
> > So far I have learned that an application using the RDF will establish
> > its own rule base given that the RDF is loosely floating somehow in
> > a gravity free environment,
> 
> Heh, you certainly have a way with words :-) RDF isn't loosely floating
> anywhere, but the resources that are referred to in RDF certainly seem to
> be doing so... But it isn't gravity-free. Just scattering the Web with bits
> of data is not going to be very constructive: which is why we need that
> magic glue of yours. That "magic glue" may come in many forms: one of which
> is the SWAG dictionary [1] that we're working on. But that's a "Semantic
> Web" thing, and I think it's drifting well outside the scope of HumanML.
> 
> > [...] where objects obtain connective properties by the application's
> > task oriented interface to either machine or human need.
> 
> Nah, if interfaces had to connect all of the data together, it'd never
> work. Imagine if all of the HyperLinks for the WWW were stored in
> browsers...
> 

Well I was wondering about that. Not a problem though for magic glue.

I'm more inclined to watch this thing come together. I'm thinking that 
a lurking state, as far as XML is concerned, is what I should do now.

I would like to thank you for showing me so many interesting ideas.

I'll be finished with my insertion into XML after the new year. This 
should make my lurking here more productive.

Happy trails,

Mark