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Subject: Re: HM.VR_AI: Goals and Overview : human readable


Title: RE: HM.VR_AI: Goals and Overview : HumanML_VR_AI Facil
I rewrote my last paragraph...wasn't very clear I realize...
 
"
This ensures that HumanML values are in fact what we as humans use.  Additionally, it matches our stated purpose of being an interface for the 'human' layer--not the lower layers below.   Regardless, mappings between machine sensible markup, and human sensible markup, could be formally and explicitly described in either additional code, custom XSLT, or standard XSLT.
"
 
Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: HM.VR_AI: Goals and Overview : HumanML_VR_AI Facilitator

BTW, thanks very much Rob for this proposal document.  This can help us piece together lots of the information we've been discussing related to VR and AI topics.
 
What I feel as an important litmus test to 'where HumanML' belongs amongst other processing and rendering languages is that the element/attribute values are to human readable.  
 
For example, <happy level=".434"/> would not be acceptable, whereas <happy level="ecstacy"> might be.  Or <smile width="53%"/> may not be acceptable, but <smile width="5in"/> would be, or perhaps <smile width="wide"/>.
 
This would very importantly apply to proxemics and chromemics.
 
This ensures that HumanML values are in fact, what we as humans use, matches its stated purpose of not being an interface on the 'human' layer, not layers below.   Regardless, mappings between machine sensible markup, and human sensible markup, could be formally and explicitly described in code, or either custom or standard XSLT.
 
 
Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Rex Brooks
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 7:02 PM
Subject: RE: HM.VR_AI: Goals and Overview : HumanML_VR_AI Facilitator

Sorry, part of that was my contribution and the two parts of sentence didn't marry up completely. the structured approach refers to our use of xml and rdf schemata in our primary work, and our ongoing investigation of EMOTE work and Project Oz and Perlin's work, and now Rob's work in AI such that they tell us what requirements they need and we see if we can accommodate it or at least not create outright contradictory vocabularies. These bridges are the middleware which will use HumanML to do work with the lowerlevel languages like X3D/h-anim with and apart from MPEG-4 and SMIL and SOAP and OIL.

Is that a little more clear?

Ciao,
Rex

At 2:56 PM -0500 10/5/01, Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:
I don't understand the following. Please clarify:
 
"To be prepared for this, we are establishing a structured approach to provide for making HumanML readily useful for applications that bridge the "real" and "virtual" worlds can experience a potential imbalance in available attributes, and it may be necessary to provide a mechanism to adjust the mapping of attributes from the virtual to the real. "
 
Also note that both chronemics and proxemics have scale issues.    Personal real time and historical time have their analogues in spatial dimensions which include
both personal space and geographic space.  In the case of proxemics, I anticipate the use of concepts and data objects from the Geometry Modeling Language
for position-dependent services involving geometric space.
 
len
 


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