RE: [humanmarkup-comment] Base Schema-culture

[Rex Brooks <rexb@starbourne.com>]

I'm not sure about choice per se, but culture is certainly 
expressed/shared through media and somewhat characterized by the 
manner in which the sign systems are transported, i.e. the use made 
of available media. Few cultures, I think, actually choose among 
available media, though some do, as in preferring an oral tradition, 
or the person-to-person exchange for core cultural sharing, such as 
secret handshakes.

Thanks for the paper--sheesh. I thought I wished YOU an interesting weekend.

Ciao ;-)
Rex

At 12:16 PM -0500 8/9/02, Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:
>We may find that culture is another way of saying
>choice of available media.  That is, it includes
>the sign systems in use by some community and the
>media by which they are transported.
>
>http://www.library.utoronto.ca/see/SEED/Vol1-2/Ipsen%20semiotics%20and%20history%20media.htm
>
>Comments?
>
>len
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rex Brooks [mailto:rexb@starbourne.com]
>
>Hi Everyone,
>
>I'm pushing my self to get this new element discussion going this
>week, rather than wait until I have put in the further thought it
>deserves, because it ties into the sequence of humanGroup, community
>and culture. And I want to make sure it stays closely associated in
>our memories rather than letting another weekend  separate it from
>the discussion of community.
>
>culture
>
>This is ComplexType with the attribute of abstract. I agree with that
>but I do think that it will reference community and humanGroup. That
>does not mean that I think it needs to have a formal derivation
>because it is so widely used to mean so many different aspects of
>social life that we cannot preclude uses to which we might not agree,
>or which do not adhere to our specific definitions. What I do think
>is that, once we have thoroughly chewed on it so that we know what we
>need it to mean for HumanML purposes, is to apply our huml: prefix to
>it in order to have its use in HumanML adhere to the definitions we
>eventually prescribe.
>
>That is a long way to say that we need to co-opt this term for our
>use in a way that clearly distinguishes it from more common usage,
>and allows us to use the more common definitions without diluting our
>use of the term as an element in our Base Schema. We may decide to do
>this with a number of terms, and we will have to be careful in
>formulating our overall specification so that such terms that have
>dual purpose are clearly understood to have specific meanings when
>prefixed with huml:
>
>This is, as it is with all our elements, prefigured by belonging to
>the attribute group humlIdentifierAtts.
>
>We may want to enlarge upon the description of this element as Human
>Culture Cultural characteristics. I think we should enlarge upon that
>description, however, before I get into that, I thought it better to
>discuss this much first.
>
>What I think is that we want to set the stage for cultural modules,
>moving up the ladder of abstraction from humanGroup to community to
>culture to...
>
>But that is for later.
>
>Have an interesting weekend.
>
>Ciao,
>Rex
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