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Subject: [humanmarkup] Re: Fwd: Re: [humanmarkup-comment] Outreach

Title: Re: Fwd: Re: [humanmarkup-comment] Outreach
Hi Volker,

Thanks so much for taking the time for replying.


Your first intervention. as you call it, DID indeed have a positive effect and was WELCOME. It stimulated us to study the references you cited on the subject of race at that time-- Luigi Luca Cavalli-Sforza (Genetics, Stanford).

Any contribution you can make will certainly be welcome.

Of your fields of contribution:

1 & 2) We still need to recruit some anthropologists to begin the work of compiling credible scientific, accurate cultural profiles, even if those profiles are in the form of annotated bibliographies which we can include as source material. It is important to understand that we are only at the point of beginning to compile such cultural information modules. Codification will be based on our collection of working requirements for the effective access, search-specific topic retrieval, and use of such information.

3, 4 & 5) Discussions have been infrequent lately. It will probably be after the first of the year before discussion gets warmed up again, by which time, we hope to have our core documents done, including some definitive subcommittee work. That is when you contribution to the work would be most helpful in these areas.

What we can do is to get "Invited Expert" status for you or other anthropologists who can commit some time to working with us. That will allow you to work with the Technical Committee, rather than confine your contributions to posts on the public comments list.


We have recently updated some of our core documents, specifically: HM.frameworks and HMI.glossary, while we are actively working on updating HM.requirements and HM.applications.

Ranjeeth attended the workshop whose agenda I quote at the bottom of this message, set off by a horizontal rule from the rest of the message, and subsequently penned an article on the use of HumanMarkup in Diplomatic Communications for the GSA.

I attended the workshop by teleconference. I have joined the now-forming Web Services Component Model Technical Committee which will ensure that our work is in compliance and conformance with the latest standards for use with xml on the web, and I will be going to three days of meetings with that group in New York at the IBM Research Facilities there Jan. 7-9, 2002.

Thanks again,

rexb@starbourne.com schreibt:
>Hi Volker,
>the points are:
>1) we need to recruit some anthropologists for the task
>2) we need more participation by a wider community
>3) we need to stimulate more discussion

Dear Rex,

sorry, i was absorbed in the department which finances the life
of my wife and me. If long time after your last mail a contribution
regarding the above still is welcome, please send me three lines,
what has changed since then, or whether - except of the mailing list -
there is something else where i shall update myself.

What is your true personal opinion, did my fist intervention change
consciousness about the subject or not? If yes:
Anybody there, who has a wish or idea how i shall continue to be
I have literally no expectations. Shall i simply read the mailinglist
throw thoughts into it? I can, and i would,
although with my first intervention i was not welcome there.

If there is interest in a more special contribution of mine
in one or two of the following fields,

1 scientific background for usable code/
suggested and thinkable uses of human markup
2 a better involvement of anthropoloy and anthropologists
3 productive irritation where a thought got stuck
4 the discussion about promises around humanmarkup
(and the possible dangers and misuses).
5 intense work on other fields suggested to me,
if i can connect the suggestion with my interests.

then i would react on wishes, in which field i am needed,
and invest some energy, to throw pearls. But this i only can do,
when i know, whether and where i am welcome.

However. Cheers!

@---@  ...     folks

        Universal Access
                   Collaboration Expedition Workshop #7
                             October 16, 2001
                        National Science Foundation
                      Stafford II Building, Room 515
                             4121 Wilson Blvd.

Workshop Purpose:
To explore the societal innovation potential and realities of the
CyberHealth Initiative in light of advancements in the security and
biometrics architectural frameworks that also contribute to Universal

11:00 AM  Welcome and lntroductions - Susan Turnbull, GSA and George Brett,
          Internet2 (www.internet2.edu/e2epi) and all participants

11:15 AM  Overview of 4-H CyberSeniors/CyberTeens and the CyberHealth
          Initiative - Elizabeth Isele, Founder and President,

11:45 AM  Overview of a Cultural Context for Security - Mark Frautschi,

12:15 AM  Lunch ($8.00 cost/person for sandwich & beverage)

12:45 PM  Overview of the potential contributions of the Human Markup
          Language (HumanML) to advance social trust and reduce human
          misunderstanding in communications.  HumanML is being developed
          as an XML schema for embedding contextual human characteristics
          --cultural, social, kinesthetic, psychological, and intentional
          features --within information - Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga, chair of
          the OASIS HumanMarkup Technical Committee (oasis-open.org)

1:15 PM   Briefing on the potential contributions of biometrics and smart
          cards to advance a trusted cyber-environment for health care
          communications and patient records relevant to the Cyberhealth
          Initiative- introduction by Omid Omidvar, NIST, of Fernando
          Podio, Information Technology Lab, NIST
1:45 PM   Wrap-up

Rex Brooks
GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison, Berkeley, CA, 94702 USA, Earth
W3Address: http://www.starbourne.com
Email: rexb@starbourne.com
Tel: 510-849-2309
Fax: By Request

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