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Subject: [humanmarkup] PBS-Doc-emotion
- From: Rex Brooks <rexb@starbourne.com>
- To: humanmarkup@lists.oasis-open.org, cognite@zianet.com, clbullar@ingr.com,kurt@kurtcagle.net, mbatsis@netsmart.gr
- Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 07:36:15 -0700
Title: PBS-Doc-emotion
We didn't have much to say about emotion,
probably because it is fairly well-understood, although it will have a
much larger effect when the public is checking our work. No change was
needed or made.
From: Rex Brooks
[mailto:rexb@starbourne.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 10:58
AM
To:
humanmarkup-comment@lists.oasis-open.org;
humanmarkup@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [humanmarkup-comment] Base
Schema-emotion
Hi Everyone,
I'm moving on to another element not
because I think we are done with
culture, but because I don't have much
else to say about it until I
see what Sylvia and Len come up with,
and because I don't expect to
resolve it for the first draft until we
revisit it in the run through
of the first draft specification. I do,
however, look forward with
great anticipation to see what our
resident semiotes think about it.
Also it is a big topic and this one is
not--at least not in itself.
Thankfully.
emotion
This is a ComplexType with the
attribute of abstract. It does not
reference other elements. It belongs to
the attribute group
humldentifierAtts. It takes an
attribute value of intensity.
It's description is: A basic set of
primitive human emotions.
It is about as basic and atomistic an
element as we have, and while
we may have noodling to do with other
elements, there is not much to
say about this one. This does however
beg the question of a Secondary
Base Schema since a number of secondary
schemata will need the
emotion primitives, so I think we
pretty much find ourselves
requiring the Secondary Base
Schema.
There is a point here which I have not
brought up yet, but that I
think we need to deal with now. Our
Base Schema have not been defined
as having attributes separate from the
datatypes enumerated in the
global attribute definitions and the
reason I have not said boo about
it is that I happen to agree
wholeheartedly with a design principle
that says one should not use attributes
if we can accomplish what is
needed with elements alone. However,
with emotion here, and with
several other elements we will be
getting to soon, we will need, I
think, the Secondary Base Schema to
handle such things as the
enumeration of attributes which James
began to fill in for culture
yesterday. Keeping attributes as
secondary base elements allows us to
disassociate such primitives as anger
and resentment as types of
emotion per se. That way they can take
their own intensities rather
than modifying an overall emotional
state and allow for better
computational efficiency.
I happen to be thinking in terms of how
to get discrete numerical
values for various primitives which an
application author can then
choose to implement in any way rather
than specifying, for instance
that resentment is always a modifier of
anger.
I decided to use a simple element like
emotion to point this out
because I don't think we have much to
quibble about with its
description/definition.
Thoughts?
Ciao,
Rex
Subject: RE: [humanmarkup-comment] Base Schema-emotion
From: "Bullard, Claude L (Len)"
<clbullar@ingr.com>
To: 'Rex Brooks' <rexb@starbourne.com>,
humanmarkup-comment@lists.oasis-open.org
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:03:35 -0500
I've not much time so one quick
comment. Emotion is likely
to become of primary importance in the
sign experiment given
that in Peircian semiotics, firstness
is taken to mean the
"feeling" of the
event. Other literature places primary
importance there too.
Emotions seem to be the most direct
response the human has to external
events. They also might
be said to
have the effect of reducing a lot of computation
with respect to classification and
choosing responses. This
will greatly affect some designs for
semiotic processors as
models of human reactions. Also
note, it has been observed
that what humans remember best is not
facts, or events, but
how they "felt" about them at
the time.
Clearly while emotion is a simple
enough element, how it
gets applied won't be.
len
--
Rex Brooks
Starbourne Communications Design
1361-A Addison, Berkeley, CA 94702 *510-849-2309
http://www.starbourne.com * rexb@starbourne.com
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