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Subject: Sept. 17, 200 TC Meeting Minutes
- From: Rex Brooks <rexb@starbourne.com>
- To: huml@lists.oasis-open.org
- Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 08:31:30 -0700
Title: Sept. 17, 200 TC Meeting
Minutes
Here are the minutes for this month's
meeting:
September 17, 2003
Teleconference meeting of the OASIS HumanMarkup Technical
Committee.
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Roll Call:
Voting Members:
Rex Brooks
Sylvia Candelaria deRam
James Landrum
Rob Nixon
Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga
Russell Ruggiero
Roger Alexander (Prospective) Will be a voting member by next month's
meeting
Minutes taken by TC Secretary Rex Brooks
Meeting convened 12:05 p.m. Eastern Time.
Previous meeting minutes accepted.
This meeting was held on the normally scheduled third Wednesday of the
Month.
We had a quorum, but there was no TC business to conduct.
As usual, some of these items were actually discussed in a somewhat
different sequence from this summary.
Due to the simultaneous meetings of the WSRP TC's week-long
face-to-face meeting/event, the secretary/co-chair was not prepared
with a set agenda for this month's meeting, so we adopted a roundtable
format of having those present report on their on-going
HumanML-related activities with the specific topic of working toward
initiating work in subcommittees as an overall theme.
Rob said that the work proceeds on preparing to get started with the
Cognition in Environments Subcommittee with talks between he and
Sylvia. They estimate that they will be ready to proceed by next month
of shortly thereafter.
Sylvia noted that the Conflict Resolution Subcommittee name carries a
negative connotation after having been changed from Diplomacy due to a
request from the E-Government TC in which Ranjeeth participates as a
liaison with us. It was also agreed that it would be wise to change it
from his contacts in the State Department, but, as Sylvia mentioned,
focusing on Conflict assumes a negative situation from its inception.
This, she said, could be alleviated by a more positive name.
Rex advised that his suggestion of the Conflict Resolution name was
based on existing names that are understood fairly well, and that this
name puts the subcommittee work squarely in the field of mediation and
that if we choose another name it should come from the legal arena
which promises to be the most receptive to inclusion of HumanML in the
near term as an aid and whose terminology is aimed at an existing
problem of an overworked judicial system.
As the secretary recalls there was some discussion about a name which
could create a connotation of "bridging cultural perspectives,"
creating cross-cultural dialogues, and James suggested modeling it
after the IST (Information Society Technologies) and INRIA (THE FRENCH
NATIONAL INSTITUTE FOR RESEARCH IN COMPUTER SCIENCE AND CONTROL) which
is something of a European equivalent of NSF that fosters
communications on the web around 4-year Framework Programmes and
favors solutions such as creating a large scale European Broadband
Network and using UML as a primary programming vehicle. James
suggested we might want to recruit from this organization to give our
effort a more international basis.
Ranjeeth noted that, regardless of naming considerations, this
subcommittee is still very important and that we need to find a good
candidate to chair the subcommittee. It was left at that point, with
the issue open and it is suggested that we seek a better name.
Sylvia went on the mention her work with Rob and Roger on how to
communicate their proprietary work in ways that preserve their IPR
while providing a more complete explanation of the base terminology
that they will be contributing to a HumanML Secondary Base Language
for the CogEnv application area. She mentioned something about doing
this via interlinking documents that can span domains, and it is hoped
that she will write something to elucidate this further to make up for
the secretary's somewhat compromised note-taking skills during this
meeting--being overextended while enduring a common cold in somewhat
uncommon conditions.
Sylvia also mentioned some related developments which she has turned
up that deal with cultural heritage and in particular a Python Project
called Gamera, Gamera: A Python-based Toolkit for Structured Document
Recognition that can be found here:
http://dkc.mse.jhu.edu/gamera/
http://dkc.mse.jhu.edu/levy2/papers/python-2002-gamera/python-2002-paper/gamera.html
This work is capable of converting music recognition to object
definitions.
James said that his work is somewhat in limbo pending funding
outcomes, and said that he and his team is reviewing, reworking and
will be resubmitting the Native Dancer Project based on feedback from
NIH. He said that they have recruited and Endroinologist and a
Psychologist, Kevin McCall for the Project. Their resubmission will be
made Nov. 1, 20023. James also recounted that they have suubmitted an
application for an internal grant to North Dakota State university for
Motion Capture Facilities to be housed at the Archeology Technologies
Laboratory which should be decided by Nov. 1, 2003. We all wis him and
his team best of luck.
James went on to detail his current travel plans in relation to his
particpation in the CIDOC CRM work, saying that he will be in Swinden
Oct 6-9, which means that he will be out of the country from Oct 2 to
12-15, but that he expected to return in time for our next TC
meeting.
Roger related that he has been doing quite a bit of traveling recently
and that he was recommending that we look into Scholonto (a
combination of Scholar and Ontology) which is part of
"Knownspace" a free datamanagement AI tool that appears to
be in line with Gamera and Protege:
http://www.knownspace.org (IE Explorer recommended since Netscape only
displays the doctype html)
In case you are unfamiliar with Protege:
http://protege.stanford.edu/
Russell reported that the article he co-authored with Rex, "Are
We Ready for the Next Web?" which explains the relationship of
HumanML to the development of Web Services in the context of near term
future web developments has been accepted for publication by Thomson
Media in October. He reported that he will also be attending a meeting
of the federal xml authoring working group Sept. 24 where he palns to
meet Owen Ambur and get a feel for how we can introduce our work to
OMB as well as GSA and the Veterans Administration.
Russell also mentioned a new recruit, Tony Pisi, a former CIO of
Merrill Lynch who will be working with us fairly soon and should help
us get more positive feedback in the press.
Russell is enthusiastic about our ability to begin getting more
traction in the corporate world for our work.
Rex reported that our Demonstration Project featuring the Common
Alerting Protocol (CAP) for Emergency Management in collaboration with
Oracle is still going forward though we are not going to participate
in the Sept 25-26 Demonstration at the Global Homeland Security
Conference. This project is a proof of concept,
WSRP/JSR168-conformant/compliant, Web Services-based, New York Academy
of Medicine Public Healthcare Preparedness Portal that will be
enhanced by HumanML. It will be using the Resources Guide Ranjeeth has
built for NYAM hosted by the Oracle PortalStandards Project. Also, our
Collaborative Operations Group (COG) remains registered with the
Disaster Managment Interoperability-Services Group of FEMA/USMC.
Just before we adjourned Sylvia added a recommendation of some
powerful XML processing tools under development in Python under the
project name of XMLFilter. Details would be welcome.
We adjourned at about 1:00 p.m. Eastern
Time.
--
Rex Brooks
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Email: rexb@starbourne.com
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