Re: [id-cloud] Member submissions of use cases and requirements

[Kelvin Lawrence <klawrenc@us.ibm.com>]

I agree with Mary.


Cheers
Kelvin

From:	Mary McRae <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
To:	Anil Saldhana <Anil.Saldhana@redhat.com>
Cc:	id-cloud@lists.oasis-open.org
Date:	05/06/2010 11:06 AM
Subject:	Re: [id-cloud] Member submissions of use cases and requirements

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It seems more prudent to me to take the time to know
that your proposal falls within the scope rather than taking up TC time
to figure it out. The Charter is published and the Scope defines what can
and cannot be done by the TC. Potential members review that Charter and
Scope to determine whether they are willing to participate or not and evaluate
what claims they might have around that scope. Encouraging people to disregard
the scope - no matter to what degree - is a slippery slope and will likely
result in protracted debates and end up delaying, rather than speeding
up, progress. Not to mention a violation of the spirit of the TC Process.

Regards,

Mary



On May 6, 2010, at 11:20 AM, Anil Saldhana wrote:

> Hi Mary,
> 
> Ok and Ok.
> 
> The submissions are just raw materials for now. I am sure that the
members will vet their submission for IPR/confidential aspects.  But
I would prefer (request) the members to make the submission rather than
ponder over parts of their submission fall within scope or not. That will
save us time in discussions and merging exercise.
> 
> Regards,
> Anil
> 
> On 05/06/2010 10:07 AM, Mary McRae wrote:
>> Hi Anil,
>> 
>> Just a couple of comments on your proposed submission guidelines:
>> 
>> 2.  At OASIS, each member of a TC acts as an individual.
You can't restrict individuals from the same company to act as a group.
>> 
>> 4. I think many companies will want to ensure that any submissions
made fall within the scope of the TC for IPR reasons prior to making those
submissions. Certainly if someone is unclear, they can ask the question
to see whether the other members feel it would be in scope or not.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Mary P McRae
>> Director, Standards Development
>> Technical Committee Administrator
>> OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society
>> email: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
>> web: www.oasis-open.org
>> twitter: @fiberartisan  #oasisopen
>> phone: 1.603.232.9090
>> 
>> Standards are like parachutes: they work best when they're open.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 5, 2010, at 11:11 PM, Anil Saldhana wrote:
>> 
>>   
>>> Hi all,
>>>    it is time to get started with the TC business
as we get close to the second meeting.  The first step is to solicit
and collect member submissions on use cases and requirements.
>>> 
>>> Submission Guidelines:
>>> ---------------------------------
>>> 1) Please create separate email threads for each submission
(do not reply to someone else's submission with your own submission). This
is because the archives will be cleaner.  You can comment on someone's
submission by replying to that thread. You can also refine your own submission
by replying to your own thread.
>>> 2) One submission from a company/member. Please coordinate
among your colleagues from the same company.  Individual members are
free to submit their own submissions.
>>> 3) Please clean your submissions off proprietary or confidential
information. This is public work.
>>> 4) Please do not evaluate whether your content matches the
TC charter or not. It is important for you to submit the information. The
TC will evaluate your submission and decide if any of the content is out
of scope.
>>> 5) Level of detail is dependent on your comfort level. If
additional information is needed, the TC will request it from you in the
future.
>>> 
>>> Submission Objectives:
>>> ---------------------------------
>>> * The TC is looking at use cases and requirements to start
the work.
>>> * The TC will discuss the submissions and then the spec editors
will collate the submissions (based on TC feedback).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Submission Format:
>>> ---------------------------
>>> This is open for discussion. Please suggest alternative formats.
>>> 
>>> Potential format is the following:
>>> Name of the member (s):
>>> Affiliation:
>>> Use Cases:
>>> Requirements:
>>> Best Practices:
>>> Other Information:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Note:  The TC will not only benefit from your submissions
of use cases and requirements for Identity In The Cloud, but also it will
be useful to hear your pain points/grievances in the field (good for Other
Information).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Anil&  Tony


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