RE: [id-cloud] FW: [egov-sc] CLOUD COMPUTING

[Colin Wallis <Colin.Wallis@dia.govt.nz>]

..and looking at the link I am already the liaison with the OASIS eGov Member section:-).

But at least my boss now reluctantly agrees I can do it now .. I guess after-the-event is better than nothing!

So I will ensure I keep putting ID Cloud in front of the OASIS eGov MS at every opportunity. On this eGov MS morning's call, I heard that the Dutch government appears to have stalled on Cloud because what I think sounds like a 'sovereignty' issue - having Dutch info held in another territory, such that they no longer have jurisdictional control over it.  My government has similar concerns but down here some folks are advancing a counter argument that says that this should be context and risk related..keep your risky stuff in your own country, worry less about less risky stuff on the Cloud by having risk mitigations in place in SLAs, processes and so on.  I'll find out more from the Dutch and report back though.

Cheers
Colin

-----Original Message-----
From: Anil Saldhana [mailto:Anil.Saldhana@redhat.com] 
Sent: Saturday, 11 September 2010 3:45 a.m.
To: id-cloud@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [id-cloud] FW: [egov-sc] CLOUD COMPUTING

  Colin,
   we operate with other groups via liaison relationships.  I would 
suggest that you be our eGov liaison.
http://wiki.oasis-open.org/id-cloud/liaisons

We definitely can benefit from eGov use cases.

Regards,
Anil

On 09/08/2010 10:04 PM, Colin Wallis wrote:
> Greetings all
>
> Forwarding you all this email from the OASIS eGov MS Chair, John Borras.
>
> Much of the information will be already known to many folks on this list, so I won't particularly dwell on it except to say that the Cloud Stds co-ordination Wiki includes some content on Audit, which was something I personally did not know about.
>
> But to the point of this email: Can we offer eGov any guidance on what we could consider doing/filling in in terms of 'some missing bits'?
>
> Bear in mind that the OASIS eGov MS is not a technical group and does not develop standards per se (well not without spinning up a TC to do particular work).
>
> The most obvious request would be to reach out to the membership for any 'eGov' use cases pertaining to the Cloud (and pass them over to Id-Cloud).
>
> But anything else?
>
> Cheers
> Colin
>
> From: John Borras [mailto:johnaborras@yahoo.co.uk]
> Sent: Thursday, 9 September 2010 1:42 a.m.
> To: egov-sc@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: [egov-sc] CLOUD COMPUTING
>
> It has bothered me for some time that we haven't been doing anything on Cloud Computing despite several suggestions from contacts and members.  We've had an  Item on the work plan all year to establish a Discussion Forum but that hasn't come to anything yet and I do wonder now whether that is the right thing for us to be doing.  I've just been pointed to this article and related material which gives a good overview of where things are at and who's doing what.  The question is in my mind is, given all this activity where can we add value or fill in some missing bits?  I would welcome your views and let's have a discussion about it on next week's SC call.
>
> Article by Andrew Watson
> http://www.cloudcommons.com/web/guest/article-display?p_p_lifecycle=0&_cc_fullcontent_type=blog&p_p_id=cc_fullcontent&_cc_fullcontent_assetId=118001&p_p_col_count=1&p_p_col_id=column-1&_cc_fullcontent_urlTitle=standards-and-the-cloud&p_p_state=normal&_cc_fullcontent_struts_action=%2Fdigitas%2Fcc_fullcontent%2Fview_content
>
> Cloud Standards Coordination Wiki
> http://cloud-standards.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
>
> Cloud Standards Overview
> http://cloud-standards.org/wiki/index.php?title=Cloud_standards_overview
>
>
> John

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