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Subject: Re: [imi] Token profile issue with AppliesTo and AudienceRestriction
--Apple-Mail-211--854969967 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-210--854971257 --Apple-Mail-210--854971257 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I think the IDP has enough control with the three options in the card. = See 3.3.3 I should point out I just noticed that 11.7 Auditing-Optional Card: is = wrong. It dos not mention the <AppliesTo> element in the RP policy and = implies the default is the opposite to what it is. Sorry I should = have cought that. The problem is that the RP largely has no control, unless they are using = a RP/STS. Auditing optional cards are not useful at the moment because they always = default to non-auditing. We need a way for the RP to select Auditing vs non-Auditing for Auditing = optional cards without a RP STS. I agree with Scott that the URL of the page the object tag is on is a = bit crude. Having a way to specify the identity of the RP via WS-Security Policy or = object tag etc is also a requirement. While we are at it giving the user the ability to tell if the card is = disclosing information about the RP to the issuer would be nice. That = is probably an implementation issue. The audience restriction issue could be mitigated if we had a way to do = HoK through the browser.=20 (Scott can take over on the HoK rant) John B. On 2009-12-15, at 7:55 PM, Mike Jones wrote: > (adding Arun to the thread, so he can see this) >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Cantor [mailto:cantor.2@osu.edu]=20 > Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 2:54 PM > To: 'John Bradley'; Mike Jones > Cc: imi@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: RE: [imi] Token profile issue with AppliesTo and = AudienceRestriction >=20 > John Bradley wrote on 2009-12-15: >> Thank Arun for me. >=20 > And me. ;-) >=20 > One of my major outstanding issues, related to this topic, is how to = get > AppliesTo in there as the default/common case. Either we need expanded = use > of WS-SP for non-STS RPs or we fix the tag, but we need something. >=20 > The problem with the IdP-only approach that bakes "require AppliesTo" = into > the card is that the selector then mis-applies the delivery location = as the > identifier of the RP, which are not at all the same thing. >=20 > -- Scott >=20 >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that > generates this mail. Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at: > https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php=20= >=20 >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that > generates this mail. Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at: > https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php >=20 --Apple-Mail-210--854971257 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I = think the IDP has enough control with the three options in the card. = See 3.3.3<div><br></div><div>I should point out I just noticed = that 11.7 <span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: = 10px; font-weight: bold; ">Auditing-Optional Card: </span><font = class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#000000" size=3D"3"><span = class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"background-color: transparent; = font-size: 12px;">is wrong. It dos not mention the = <AppliesTo> element in the RP policy and implies the default is = the opposite to what it is. Sorry I should have cought = that.</span></font></div><div><div><br></div><div>The problem is that = the RP largely has no control, unless they are using a = RP/STS.</div><div><br></div><div>Auditing optional cards are not useful = at the moment because they always default to = non-auditing.</div><div><br></div><div>We need a way for the RP to = select Auditing vs non-Auditing for Auditing optional cards without a RP = STS.</div><div><br></div><div>I agree with Scott that the URL of the = page the object tag is on is a bit = crude.</div><div><br></div><div>Having a way to specify the identity of = the RP via WS-Security Policy or object tag etc is also a = requirement.</div><div><br></div><div>While we are at it giving the user = the ability to tell if the card is disclosing information about the RP = to the issuer would be nice. That is probably an implementation = issue.</div><div><br></div><div>The audience restriction issue could be = mitigated if we had a way to do HoK through the = browser. </div><div><br></div><div>(Scott can take over on the HoK = rant)</div><div><br></div><div>John = B.</div><div><br></div><div><div><div>On 2009-12-15, at 7:55 PM, Mike = Jones wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><div>(adding Arun to the thread, so he can see = this)<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Scott Cantor = [mailto:cantor.2@osu.edu] <br>Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 2:54 = PM<br>To: 'John Bradley'; Mike Jones<br>Cc: <a = href=3D"mailto:imi@lists.oasis-open.org";>imi@lists.oasis-open.org</a><br>S= ubject: RE: [imi] Token profile issue with AppliesTo and = AudienceRestriction<br><br>John Bradley wrote on = 2009-12-15:<br><blockquote type=3D"cite">Thank Arun for = me.<br></blockquote><br>And me. ;-)<br><br>One of my major outstanding = issues, related to this topic, is how to get<br>AppliesTo in there as = the default/common case. Either we need expanded use<br>of WS-SP for = non-STS RPs or we fix the tag, but we need something.<br><br>The problem = with the IdP-only approach that bakes "require AppliesTo" into<br>the = card is that the selector then mis-applies the delivery location as = the<br>identifier of the RP, which are not at all the same = thing.<br><br>-- = Scott<br><br><br><br>-----------------------------------------------------= ----------------<br>To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave = the OASIS TC that<br>generates this mail. Follow this link to all = your TCs in OASIS at:<br><a = href=3D"https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups= .php">https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.p= hp</a> = <br><br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------= -----------<br>To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the = OASIS TC that<br>generates this mail. 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