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Subject: RE: [legalxml-comment] Missing DTD?

Hi George,

Just a quick response.

LegalXML has been going through a major reorganization with the move to
join OASIS and a number of important initiatives have been delayed. Most
critically the standards effort! Thankfully the organization is coming
out of a long dark tunnel and I think in the near future the real work
of the group will restart. I'm pretty sure there'll be a few weeks of
settling in to the new structure but OASIS has a great track record in
the standards arena.

Davin Fifield (ex CTO of RealLegal) and I co-chaired the Transcripts
workgroup but unfortunately Davin has recently moved out of the legal

Not sure about the logistics for the workgroups under the OASIS but
there is a steering group meeting next week where hopefully this sort of
issue will be discussed. We need to get the links for things like the
draft Transcript DTD back online ASAP. If there's no resolution from
next weeks meeting I can send a copy out to all the members of the

There are many issues to be progressed by the transcripts workgroup
including the issues around DTD's and XML Schema, realtime transcript
and the appropriateness of the latest draft DTD, etc.

More information to follow as the OASIS structure for LegalXML unravels.


Eddie O'Brien

-----Original Message-----
From: George K. Belicka Jr. [mailto:gbelicka@indatacorp.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 3:44 PM
To: legalxml-comment@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [legalxml-comment] Missing DTD?

Greetings everyone.

I've just subscribed to this listserv, and it's the first one I've been
on since 1993 so please forgive me if my posting is misdirected.  I'm
not trying to clutter anyone's email with stupid questions... :-)

As a developer I've been looking at applying XML to how my software
manipulates deposition transcripts, and after googling LegalXML, well,
here I am.

Apparently there has already been some progress made in this area, but I
can't seem to locate the DTD (or preferably the schema) for the work
that's been accomplished.  I took a couple of hours and tossed together
my own schema for what I would like to see, and after doing an export of
a transcript from RealLegal's E*Transcript 4.0, was pleasantly surprised
that my concept and theirs matched pretty closely.  Further, they seem
to reference your DTD at
which is completely dead.

So first, where do I get the DTD?

Second, to whom do I address proposals for additional (optional)

Third, when is the DTD being scrapped in favor of xml-schema?

Fourth, are any CAT vendors out there actually embracing XML as a
delivery mechanism to the client?

Right now the attorney's seem to be getting ASCII floppies to load into
DepositionDirector, or Summation iBlaze, or whatever.  I think if the
reporters could export XML transcripts for delivery to the attorney's
(directly from their CAT software), and that XML was standardized, then
the task of moving data from CAT software to linked digital video, to
discovery software, to trial presentation software could be greatly
simplified. (read: faster, cheaper, easier).

Any inputs are appreciated.  If I've sent this to the wrong folks,
please just tell me where to go... (err, so to speak.)

:-) Geo...

George K. Belicka Jr.
Senior Developer, inData Software LLC
1325 North Fiesta Boulevard, Suite 4
Gilbert AZ 85233

480.497.8595 x201
480.497.1833 fax


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