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Subject: [legalxml-courtfiling] RE: Including transcripts within our charter
I agree with Robin's observations.
Dave
David Goodwin
Business Analyst
Maricopa County ICJIS
Dagoodwi@mail.maricopa.gov
602-506-1512
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Subject: Re: Including transcripts within our charter
A couple of thoughts come to mind.
First, if we accept this additional work, we would need to establish a
subcommittee, needing a chair, within the Electronic Court Filing TC. I
would recommend that a chairperson be identified before we decide.
Second, I don't know how much overlap there was between the old Court
Filing and Transcripts work groups' memberships. We should identify if
there are members now, or folks who are committed to joining the TC, that
are interested in doing the Transcripts work. Our present membership is
considerably smaller than LegalXML's was, and virtually everybody is
committed to one or more subcommittees now. I am concerned about who could
take on the additional work.
I think Transcripts is a valuable piece of the whole electronic court
records picture and think the industry can benefit from a Transcripts
standard.
As far as including it in our Charter. I think the general scope
identified in the Purpose section of our existing Charter is expansive
enough to support adding Transcripts as a Subcommittee without revising the
charter. Once voted upon, the subcommittee would be listed as part of our
work in the other information on our web site.
Robin
Robin Gibson
Information Technology Division
Office of State Courts Administrator
robin_gibson@osca.state.mo.us
573-751-4377
"John M.
Greacen" To: "Bergeron, Donald L. (LNG)" <Donald.Bergeron@LEXIS-NEXIS.COM>,
<john@greacen. jik <jik@jkeane.com>, Larry Webster <Larry.Webster@SEARCH.ORG>, Mary
net> Campbell McQueen <mary.mcqueen@courts.wa.gov>, Mohyeddin Abdulaziz
<abdulaziz@APLTWO.CT.STATE.AZ.US>, Robin Gibson
07/17/2002 <Robin_Gibson@osca.state.mo.us>, Rolly Chambers
10:41 AM <rlchambers@justice.com>, Terrie Bousquin <bousquin@greacen.net>, Eddie
OBrien <eddie@ringtailsolutions.com>, Roger Winters
<Roger.Winters@METROKC.GOV>, "Gregory W. Arnold"
<arnoldg@aoc.courts.state.ga.us>, "Dr. Laurence Leff" <D-Leff@wiu.edu>,
John Messing <jmessing@LAW-ON-LINE.COM>, Allen Jensen
<AJENSEN@OCCOURTS.ORG>, Rory Perry <rory@COURTS.STATE.WV.US>,
"Ron.Beach" <Ron.Beach@isd-corp.com>, "moira.rowley"
<moira.rowley@acs-inc.com>, Dwight R Daniels <drdaniels@kpmg.com>, john
<john@greacen.net>, Ron Bowmaster <rbowmast@notes.state.ne.us>, "Karl F.
Best" <karl.best@oasis-open.org>, "Benjamin T. Wilson"
<ben.wilson@xcera.net>, Charles Gilliam
<charles.gilliam@contentguard.com>, aerts <aerts@lasd.org>, jeromeb
<jeromeb@email.utcourts.gov>, tbrown <tbrown@o2exchange.com>,
"tom.clarke" <tom.clarke@courts.wa.gov>, "bruce.gitlin"
<bruce.gitlin@contentguard.com>, dagoodwi <dagoodwi@mail.maricopa.gov>,
roger <roger@number7.demon.co.uk>, wjohnsto <wjohnsto@adobe.com>,
pkasselman <pkasselman@baltimore.com>, "Catherine.Krause"
<Catherine.Krause@METROKC.GOV>, "Diane.Lewis" <Diane.Lewis@usdoj.gov>,
manoj <manoj@infomosaic.com>, "meng-chun.lin" <meng-chun.lin@usdoj.gov>,
"gary.pinder" <gary.pinder@fct-cf.gc.ca>, gpoindexter
<gpoindexter@kpmg.com>, dpowell <dpowell@tybera.com>, ssansom
<ssansom@austin.rr.com>, tjsmith <tjsmith@itdecision.com>, "steve.spohn"
<steve.spohn@jud.ca.gov>, "steven.taylor"
<steven.taylor@courts.sa.gov.au>, kthotti <kthotti@NOTES.STATE.NE.US>,
swood <swood@perfectprobate.com>, "Mark S. Yuan" <Mark.Yuan@jud.ca.gov>,
Robert DeFilippis <rtd@faxfile.com>, John Ruegg
<jruegg@isab.co.la.ca.us>, John McClure <jmcclure@hypergrove.com>, Court
Filing List <legalxml-courtfiling@lists.oasis-open.org>
cc:
Subject: Including transcripts within our charter
I just got an email from Eddie O'Brien, former chair of the Transcripts
Work Group in Legal XML, asking if our TC would be willing to absorb the
transcripts work. There has been a TC discussion list for 90 days, the
group has a charter, and it has a draft DTD. It does not have anyone
willing to serve as chair of the TC.
I am copying his message below in italics. Based on the response to a
similar request from a member of another potential TC, I do not believe
that OASIS will extend the time for the discussion list (Eddie's third
option).
Are we willing to take this on? Our plate is already full. However XML
transcripts are an obviously good thing, and closely related to our task,
since they are official court records. Is there anyone in our group, not
already committed to a major task, willing to provide leadership to a
subcommittee on transcripts?
The TC discussion list will close after Friday. So we need to respond
immediately. Please respond by the close of business on Thursday.
Thanks for your thoughts on this.
In line with the approach set out by OASIS I understand that the
timeframe for establishing the Transcripts TC is approaching.
Background: The Charter for the group is in place and there is already
draft transcript standard.
I have polled the community who are subscribed to the Transcript
discussion list and have had some significant positive feedback on
establishing a forum for the creation of a transcript standard.
I have also approached two of the National governing bodies for
transcript production - National Court Reporters Association (NCRA) and
also the National Verbatim Reporters Association (NVRA) - for their
support. The holiday season has certainly had an effect on their ability
to respond.
However, no prospective TC leader has come forward and, as stated
previously, I'm unable to commit the considerable amount of time to
continue this effort alone although I'm prepared to contribute to any
standard.
Assessment: I'm convinced, and it appears that many others also agree,
that a transcript standard is appropriate to the needs of the legal
community.
Option 1: There has been some discussion that Court Transcripts could be
part of the Court eFiling TC. This makes some sense and may be a better
place for this work to take place although John Greacen would need to
poll his community to approve this. Therefore, I suggest that John's
group be polled to see if this is a suitable forum to progress
transcripts.
Option 2: We suspend this effort until a later date.
Option 3: Oasis leave the Discussion List open for an extended period to
allow the community to decide whether it wants to establish a
Transcripts TC.
--
John M. Greacen
Greacen Associates, LLC.
18 Fairly Road
Santa Fe, NM 87507
505-471-0203
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