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Subject: RE: DocumentStampInformation


I meant to say I’ll ADD nc:Case to stampinformation:DocumentStampInformationMessage in WD33.

 

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Jim Cabral
502 509-4532

 


From: James E Cabral
Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 2:44:50 PM
To: McMillan, Jim; Baughman, Philip; Othon, Enrique; legalxml-courtfiling@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: DocumentStampInformation
 

OK.  I’ll nc:Case to stampinformation:DocumentStampInformationMessage in WD33.

 

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Jim Cabral
502 509-4532

 


From: McMillan, Jim <jmcmillan@ncsc.org>
Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 12:17:20 PM
To: Baughman, Philip; James E Cabral; Othon, Enrique; legalxml-courtfiling@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: DocumentStampInformation
 

Thanks Philip.  I think I understand?  It’s binary – stamped or not.  Accepted for filing or not.  Makes sense. – Jim M

 

From: Baughman, Philip [mailto:Philip.Baughman@tylertech.com]
Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 12:15 PM
To: McMillan, Jim <jmcmillan@ncsc.org>; James E Cabral <jec@mtgmc.com>; Othon, Enrique <Enrique.Othon@tylertech.com>; legalxml-courtfiling@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: DocumentStampInformation

 

Hello.  The reason nc:Case should be included is for case initiation, as follows:

 

The stamping system is responsible for stamping documents for the new case filing.  The stamping system relies upon another system (likely the Clerk CMS) for case assignment (assigning the case number, the court, etc.) and the details of the case are pertinent to the case assignment process.

 

 

 

Philip Baughman
Senior Software Engineering Manager, eSolutions
P: 972.713.3770 ext: 113406

 

 

From: legalxml-courtfiling@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:legalxml-courtfiling@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of McMillan, Jim
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2018 8:35 AM
To: James E Cabral <jec@mtgmc.com>; Othon, Enrique <Enrique.Othon@tylertech.com>; legalxml-courtfiling@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [legalxml-courtfiling] RE: DocumentStampInformation

 

Sounds like a good analysis.  Anyway.. the question of the purpose of DocumentStampInformation remains???  Jim M

 

From: James E Cabral [mailto:jec@mtgmc.com]
Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 9:33 AM
To: McMillan, Jim <jmcmillan@ncsc.org>; Othon, Enrique <Enrique.Othon@tylertech.com>; legalxml-courtfiling@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: DocumentStampInformation

 

Jim,

 

I’m pretty sure they are using the CRC as the hash.  The verification code may simply be the document identifier in the court record  system.

 

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Jim Cabral
502 509-4532

 


From: McMillan, Jim <jmcmillan@ncsc.org>
Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 9:20:38 AM
To: James E Cabral; Othon, Enrique; legalxml-courtfiling@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: DocumentStampInformation

 

I think that Brazil is calling their hash a “verification code”. Lawyers don’t know what a hash is. – Jim M

 

From: James E Cabral [mailto:jec@mtgmc.com]
Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 9:19 AM
To: McMillan, Jim <jmcmillan@ncsc.org>; Othon, Enrique <Enrique.Othon@tylertech.com>; legalxml-courtfiling@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: DocumentStampInformation

 

Jim,

 

We continue to support a hash for reviewed documents.  What is the utility of the verification code?

 

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Jim Cabral
502 509-4532

 


From: McMillan, Jim <jmcmillan@ncsc.org>
Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 9:07:48 AM
To: James E Cabral; Othon, Enrique; legalxml-courtfiling@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: DocumentStampInformation

 

The federal courts put their Hash out there as part of the Document Stamp (which is a verification btw).  We need to also deal with Block Chain for this IMHO.

 

Brazil does a nice job on this.  I wrote about it back in March at:  https://courttechbulletin.blogspot.com/2018/03/court-document-verification-in-brazil.html

 

Notice that they include a “verification code” and a CRC code.

 

Jim M

 

From: legalxml-courtfiling@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:legalxml-courtfiling@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of James E Cabral
Sent: Monday, July 2, 2018 8:29 AM
To: Othon, Enrique <Enrique.Othon@tylertech.com>; legalxml-courtfiling@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [legalxml-courtfiling] RE: DocumentStampInformation

 

Enrique,

 

stampinformation:DocumentStampInformationMessage includes ecf:CaseTrackingID and j:CaseNumberText which I believe is correct.  stampinformationcallback:NotifyDocumentStampInformationMessage includes ecf:CaseTrackingID and nc:Case.

 

Is there a reason stampinformation:DocumentStampInformationMessage should include nc:Case?

 

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Jim Cabral
502 509-4532

 


From: legalxml-courtfiling@lists.oasis-open.org <legalxml-courtfiling@lists.oasis-open.org> on behalf of Othon, Enrique <Enrique.Othon@tylertech.com>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 9:06:25 AM
To: legalxml-courtfiling@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [legalxml-courtfiling] DocumentStampInformation

 

I was looking at the DocumentStampInformation request and I noticed the schema doesn’t include an nc:Case element.

Is there a reason for that or just an oversight?

 



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