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Subject: eContracts TC Minutes
Dave Marvit asked me to forward these minutes to the list. I took over for him when Dave departed just before we ended the meeting. No further substantive business was discussed or concluded after his minutes leave off. Thanks, - Dan ------------------------ LegalXML eContracts Technical Committee Draft minutes June 8, 2008 In attendance: Charles Gillam, Jason Harrop Dan Greenwood, John McClure, Dave Marvit Zoran Milosevic Dan: some of us got an email from Peter apologizing for not having time for not getting to the use cases that he was going to snap into the requirements doc. I wonder if that was part of the critical dependencies that impacted Rolly? It may be time to take a different approach to the requirements document. Depending upon where things are with the doc, it may be time to give Rolly some additional assistance. I am making a move back to the states on Tuesday of next week. I'll be pretty jammed between now and our next meeting. I can take at least temporary responsibility for getting the doc to a vote-able point after that. Jason; Was Zoran going to help Rolly with the doc? Dan: Yes. I don't know what has happened since the last meting. Zoran? Zoran: Yes, I sent him some emails and haven't heard back. Dan; We are considering another approach that can help us move forward. We are considering taking a step back from the current doc and deal with this at a different level of abstraction. Then, once we have a list like that, then we can plug it back into Rolly''s doc. Charles: [In response to a request that e give Rolly a call] All I could do as to leave a message for Rolly. Dan: Thanks for trying to do that Charles. Jason: I have missed a couple of calls. Is there a feeling that we have reached an impasse on the requirements document? Dan: Yes. We wanted to update the doc in a couple of ways. One was to have a list of functional requirements that we need to have pop out. Zoran: Should these sets of bullet points be based upon the doc that Rolly has created plus the use cases / scenarios? There is a lot of good content there. Dan: I think so. From that and the work of the structural committee and so on. Zoran: I would feel a little uneasy if we should start doing new stuff because we haven't heard from Rolly. Dan: Well, in the context of the last call. he seemed to be thankful for additional help. Zoran: Well, I am willing to start looking at it, I'm just not sure what to do. Dan: We do have a bunch of good people on the call right now. I'd be interested in seeing if we could start generating a bulleted list right now. Then, coming out of the call, we can let the process play itself out with Rolly, and Zoran and Peter who have volunteered. One place to start, though perhaps not the best, is the discussion of someone receiving the document, printing it, signing it, and sending it back [on paper]. Is that well put? John: Yes, that is the essence of document exchange that takes into account the current practices of document usage. There are technical issues that could be discussed, but I don't know if this is the time to discuss those. Dave: Let's add more bullets Dan: OK, I broke it into 4 components: - Electronic transmission of the contract - Printing by the recipient - Signing (on paper) - Sending back to the sender (on paper) The paper contract that is delivered back is the contract. John: We should give each of these a name. Jason: Email print sign..? [some discussion about naming this bullet] Zoran: We need to have a process for how we go forward. John: Also, electronic, modify, and return. Dan: You mean an offer, counter offer? John: Well, I was thinking more of passing around drafts. Dan: Got it. Jason? Jason: I have no objection at the level of discussion we are having. When we go down a level that's when we hit the can of worms. But isn't that redundant with the work that Peter has already done in his doc to John and Rolly? Dan: Yes, that's linked. Do you think this discussion is out of order? Zoran: To some extent I do think this is out of order. There is a lot of good stuff there. I do feel a bit that we are going in circles here without talking to Rolly. Dan: What do others think? Jason: Well, if we think we are writing down the cases Peter has done, and slightly tweaking it, well, that makes sense but should we be doing it now or when Peter is on the call. Perhaps he has already addressed these. Jason: I think it would make sense to have the high level discussion next week and then drill down. Dan: I just want to make it clear that we are only doing it this way because we don't happen to have the draft today. I am still OK with it [the current process...] [Dave has to depart and stop taking notes]
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