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Subject: RE: [legalxml-enotary] FW: LegalXML eNotary Update
The comment assumes that signatures will be effected with a PKI digital signature. Two thoughts. 1. The PKI digital signature use case is excluded from the standard because of the ghost patent PKI Arcanvs e-notary patents and the OASIS and TC IPR policies, but the use could be easily recreated around the standard as extensions because the technology methodologies are derivative of W3 Digsig, which was based primarily but not exclusively on PKI certificate usage. Remember, this is what threw me off when Arshad first released the deliverable. 2. Graphic representations of valid or invalid signatures are part of the application GUI and so the comments really don't apply with regard to iconic representations in Acrobat. This is a fundamental problem of communicating in this space. People use terms that are associated with a culture's expressions surrounding technology issues rather than a technology itself. So determining relevancy of the comment and fashioning an appropriate reply that is both diplomatic and honest are the challenges. Should be interesting. > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [legalxml-enotary] FW: LegalXML eNotary Update > From: "Mark Ladd" <mladd@pria.us> > Date: Wed, May 07, 2008 9:07 am > To: <legalxml-enotary@lists.oasis-open.org> > > > Here are a few comments I received from the co-chair of the MISMO eMortgage > Workgroup after he reviewed our draft workproduct. > > > > Just a few items to consider as we move forward. > > > > > > Mark Ladd > > PRIA Technology Coordinator > > > > 262-498-0850 > > mladd@pria.us > > > > > > From: Lira, Abdias [mailto:Abdias.Lira@wolterskluwer.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 10:28 AM > To: Mark Ladd > Cc: HGardner@mortgagebankers.org > Subject: RE: LegalXML eNotary Update > > > > Mark, > > > > This looks better than the previous proposal. For SMART DocR, we could use > what they are calling the "e-notary element" alternative. > > > > Here are some comments: > > > > 1. The proposed structure is invisible to the end-users. There seems > to be no provision for how to display the certificate on the body of the > document or how to link the proposed e-notary structures with the appearance > of the certificate and notary signature in the body of the document. > > 2. If I understand this correctly, it seems that they are making the > assumption that the notary signature is always going to be embedded in the > certificate structure. Some document formats, like PDF, have their own > signature objects. There should be a way to link the certificate to a > signature object in the document for the notary's signature. In sdv3 we are > doing that in a indirect way by having the NOTARY_SIGNATURE_FIELD definition > point to both the signature field as well as to the certificate field. > > 3. There is no provision on how to merge the notarial act data with > the statutory language. I understand that the language does not stand by > itself. It is either a template or it filled out. If it is filled out, then > there should be a way to identify the locations of the various fields in it. > We talked about this in one of our recent sdv3 meetings. > > > > > > Thanks. > > Abdias Lira > Principal Software Architect > Software Product Development > Wolters Kluwer Financial Services > > 3468 Archgate Court > > Alpharetta, GA 30004 > 770-442-0985 office > 586.764.4710 mobile > <mailto:abdias.lira@wolterskluwer.com> abdias.lira@wolterskluwer.com > <http://www.wolterskluwerfs.com/> www.WoltersKluwerFS.com > > > > From: Mark Ladd [mailto:mladd@pria.us] > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 2:39 PM > To: Lira, Abdias > Subject: RE: LegalXML eNotary Update > > > > Attached is the Use Case document the LegalXML eNotary Technical Committee > is drafting. Also attached is a PDF overview of the proposed XML standard. > These are provided for your review and feedback. > > > > I will be interested to hear from you regarding how this might coordinate > with the MISMO eMortgage Workgroup eNotary documents. > > > > If you would like additional information on this, feel free to contact me. > > > > > > > > Mark Ladd > > PRIA Technology Coordinator > > > > 262-498-0850 > > mladd@pria.us > > > > > > From: Lira, Abdias [mailto:Abdias.Lira@wolterskluwer.com] > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 12:22 PM > To: Mark Ladd > Subject: RE: LegalXML eNotary Update > > > > Mark, > > > > I declare that I have read and accept the terms of the OASIS Feedback > License as provided at: > > http://www.oasis-open.org/who/intellectualproperty.php#appendixa. > > > > Thanks. > > Abdias Lira > Principal Software Architect > Software Product Development > Wolters Kluwer Financial Services > > 3468 Archgate Court > > Alpharetta, GA 30004 > 770-442-0985 office > 586.764.4710 mobile > <mailto:abdias.lira@wolterskluwer.com> abdias.lira@wolterskluwer.com > <http://www.wolterskluwerfs.com/> www.WoltersKluwerFS.com > > > > From: Mark Ladd [mailto:mladd@pria.us] > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 1:42 PM > To: Lira, Abdias; rsokolowski@magnoliatech.com > Cc: HGardner@mortgagebankers.org > Subject: LegalXML eNotary Update > > > > Abdias & Rachael, > > > > Awhile back Harry and I spoke with you two regarding the work the LegalXML > eNotary Technical Committee is doing. > > > > There have been some significant updates to that work that I think you two > would benefit from being aware of. Since the work is not ready for > publication yet you would need to accept the LegalXML Feedback License in > order for me to share it with you under OASIS/LegalXML rules. (Or you could > join LegalXML to have full access to this work.) The license can be found > at: http://www.oasis-open.org/who/intellectualproperty.php#appendixa. > > > > In addition to an eNotary schema, LegalXML has also drafted a Use Case > document that may be beneficial for MISMO to use as a reference. > > > > If you agree to the terms of the Feedback License, I can send you the > LegalXML documentation when I receive your assent to the license. > > > > Let me know if you have any questions. > > > > > > Mark Ladd > > PRIA Technology Coordinator > > > > 262-498-0850 > > mladd@pria.us
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