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Subject: RE: [legalxml-enotary] OASIS talk at Summer NASS Meeting



I tend to agree with Mark on the RSA booth given the cost; however, the
ABA ISC and DE meeting just prior to RSA where several of the legal
lights of digital evidence will be in attendance and the cost is free is
still a viable option.

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: [legalxml-enotary] OASIS talk at Summer NASS Meeting
> From: "Mark Ladd" <mladd@pria.us>
> Date: Thu, January 22, 2009 8:57 am
> To: "'Arshad Noor'" <arshad.noor@strongauth.com>, "'Marc L. Aronson'"
> <maronson@notary.org>
> Cc: "'legalxml-enotary'" <legalxml-enotary@lists.oasis-open.org>,
> "'laurent liscia'" <laurent.liscia@oasis-open.org>, "'Carol Geyer'"
> <carol.geyer@oasis-open.org>, "'Dee Schur'" <dee.schur@oasis-open.org>
> 
> 
> Arshad,
> 
> I like the "bigness" of your thinking - however - I'm wondering if RSA is
> really the right target audience for eNotary.  Maybe it will be someday, but
> it seems to me that our most critical audience right now are the Notary
> Administrators (who set the rules for notary) and the real estate finance
> folks (who are the largest "consumers" of notary in the US).  If these two
> groups don't embrace ENML, then I'm not sure that RSA helps us much.
> 
> I'd be interested in what other TC members think about this.  Also, if you
> (or anyone else on the TC) can help me to better connect the dots between
> eNotary and RSA, that might help too.
> 
> I'm not opposed - I'm just not seeing the connection yet.
> 
> 
> Mark Ladd
> PRIA Consultant
>  
> 262-498-0850
> mladd@pria.us 
>  
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arshad Noor [mailto:arshad.noor@strongauth.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 8:56 PM
> To: Marc L. Aronson
> Cc: legalxml-enotary; laurent liscia; Carol Geyer; Dee Schur
> Subject: Re: [legalxml-enotary] OASIS talk at Summer NASS Meeting
> 
> Thanks, Marc.  I'll wait to hear back from you when NPA
> confirms; the sooner I know the better so I can block it
> out on my calendar.  I've just confirmed speaking at the
> CTST (Card Technology/Security Technology) show in the
> first week of May in New Orleans.
> 
> (You may want to modify the description of OASIS to say that
> it is an "international (non-profit) standards development
> organization (like IEEE, ANSI or the ISO)".  OASIS does not
> create any technology - just standards that are implemented
> by technology vendors.)
> 
> All, here's what I found out from RSA:
> 
> 1) Their minimum booth size is 10x10 at a cost of $6,750;
> 2) They do not provide a discount to SDO's;
> 
> I don't think its worth it for a single TC to spend that kind
> of money on a booth.  However, I have a suggestion that might
> benefit eNotary TC, the EKMI TC and OASIS:
> 
> - In the EKMI TC, we had about $1,500 left over from the 2008
>    budget; I've requested $500 from the IDtrust SC for a face-
>    to-face TC meeting during RSA.  Assuming this gets approved,
>    we'll have about $1K left-over;
> - If EKMI TC chips-in this $1K, if eNotary TC chips-in $2K and
>    perhaps, if OASIS itself puts in $4K, we could get the booth
>    and promote ENML, SKSML (EKMI TC's new protocol) and general
>    OASIS membership in the booth;
> - We can hand out a couple of white-papers on ENML - one that
>    I expect to write up for the ABA SciTech Journal, and the
>    Security Implications paper - and put up a rolling ENML
>    presentation (which I plan to create for our repository
>    before we go out for Public Review) on a PC in the booth.
> - If anyone from eNotary TC (besides myself) is attending RSA,
>    they could volunteer to man the booth for a couple of hours
>    to talk about ENML and eNotary TC;
> - An OASIS representative (assuming someone attends) could then
>    talk about general OASIS membership; and
> - I will be there to talk about ENML and SKSML for at least 2
>    of the 3 three days the booth is available.
> 
> Aside from a couple of laptops for the SKSML and ENML
> presentations, we only need a couple of posters on ENML & SKSML
> (under $100 each from Kinko's) and the OASIS banner (which they
> already have).
> 
> All in all, this might give all of us some bang for part of the
> buck.  If OASIS does not, or cannot, chip-in the $4K, we could
> ask a few more TC's if they want to participate?  ECF?  Dee (who
> is copied on the e-mail) could ask a couple of the security TC's
> if they'd like to participate.  If we got 3-4 TC's, then we
> could all do it for $1K-$2K each (with volunteer support from
> each TC).
> 
> What do you all think?
> 
> Arshad
> 
> 
> Marc L. Aronson wrote:
> > Arshad:
> > 
> > Here is part of an email I wrote NASS about you being a speaker at 
> > NASS-NPA this summer. Below you will find their answer.
> > 
> > I have also written the NPA directly, but have not received a response 
> > as of this time and date.
> > 
> > Marc A.
> > 
> > *My question:*
> > 
> > I belong to a committee that wants to have a speaker at the NPA part of 
> > the Summer NASS meeting. I assume that anyone can come in and speak to 
> > the NPA section without any problem or fee as long as the NPA approves. 
> > This person/committee might want to set up a vendor booth (the 
> > organization is OASIS, a world wide technology organization). While you 
> > may not have determined your vendor fees for this summer yet, may I 
> > please have an example of what they are for this winter’s conference; 
> > that will be close enough for planning purposes.
> > 
> > *Their answer:*
> > 
> > If NPA invites you to speak this summer, that is the only approval you 
> > need.  If you intend to stay for any of the conference beyond your day 
> > of the presentation, you would need to register.  Registration fees for 
> > the summer conference will probably be around $900 for a corporate 
> > non-member (a business entity that is not a corporate affiliate of 
> > NASS).  Exhibit booths at the summer conference usually run about $500.
> > 
> 
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