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Subject: Re: [legalxml-enotary] OASIS talk at Summer NASS Meeting


No argument on the ISC/DE meetings, John; the ROI on presenting
ENML to these groups - if they give us the time-slots - is huge
with minimal investment (I live in the Bay Area anyway, so there
is no cost to my presenting here).

Arshad

John Messing wrote:
> I tend to agree with Mark on the RSA booth given the cost; however, the
> ABA ISC and DE meeting just prior to RSA where several of the legal
> lights of digital evidence will be in attendance and the cost is free is
> still a viable option.
> 
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: RE: [legalxml-enotary] OASIS talk at Summer NASS Meeting
>> From: "Mark Ladd" <mladd@pria.us>
>> Date: Thu, January 22, 2009 8:57 am
>> To: "'Arshad Noor'" <arshad.noor@strongauth.com>, "'Marc L. Aronson'"
>> <maronson@notary.org>
>> Cc: "'legalxml-enotary'" <legalxml-enotary@lists.oasis-open.org>,
>> "'laurent liscia'" <laurent.liscia@oasis-open.org>, "'Carol Geyer'"
>> <carol.geyer@oasis-open.org>, "'Dee Schur'" <dee.schur@oasis-open.org>
>>
>>
>> Arshad,
>>
>> I like the "bigness" of your thinking - however - I'm wondering if RSA is
>> really the right target audience for eNotary.  Maybe it will be someday, but
>> it seems to me that our most critical audience right now are the Notary
>> Administrators (who set the rules for notary) and the real estate finance
>> folks (who are the largest "consumers" of notary in the US).  If these two
>> groups don't embrace ENML, then I'm not sure that RSA helps us much.
>>
>> I'd be interested in what other TC members think about this.  Also, if you
>> (or anyone else on the TC) can help me to better connect the dots between
>> eNotary and RSA, that might help too.
>>
>> I'm not opposed - I'm just not seeing the connection yet.
>>
>>
>> Mark Ladd
>> PRIA Consultant
>>  
>> 262-498-0850
>> mladd@pria.us 
>>  
>>  
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Arshad Noor [mailto:arshad.noor@strongauth.com] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 8:56 PM
>> To: Marc L. Aronson
>> Cc: legalxml-enotary; laurent liscia; Carol Geyer; Dee Schur
>> Subject: Re: [legalxml-enotary] OASIS talk at Summer NASS Meeting
>>
>> Thanks, Marc.  I'll wait to hear back from you when NPA
>> confirms; the sooner I know the better so I can block it
>> out on my calendar.  I've just confirmed speaking at the
>> CTST (Card Technology/Security Technology) show in the
>> first week of May in New Orleans.
>>
>> (You may want to modify the description of OASIS to say that
>> it is an "international (non-profit) standards development
>> organization (like IEEE, ANSI or the ISO)".  OASIS does not
>> create any technology - just standards that are implemented
>> by technology vendors.)
>>
>> All, here's what I found out from RSA:
>>
>> 1) Their minimum booth size is 10x10 at a cost of $6,750;
>> 2) They do not provide a discount to SDO's;
>>
>> I don't think its worth it for a single TC to spend that kind
>> of money on a booth.  However, I have a suggestion that might
>> benefit eNotary TC, the EKMI TC and OASIS:
>>
>> - In the EKMI TC, we had about $1,500 left over from the 2008
>>    budget; I've requested $500 from the IDtrust SC for a face-
>>    to-face TC meeting during RSA.  Assuming this gets approved,
>>    we'll have about $1K left-over;
>> - If EKMI TC chips-in this $1K, if eNotary TC chips-in $2K and
>>    perhaps, if OASIS itself puts in $4K, we could get the booth
>>    and promote ENML, SKSML (EKMI TC's new protocol) and general
>>    OASIS membership in the booth;
>> - We can hand out a couple of white-papers on ENML - one that
>>    I expect to write up for the ABA SciTech Journal, and the
>>    Security Implications paper - and put up a rolling ENML
>>    presentation (which I plan to create for our repository
>>    before we go out for Public Review) on a PC in the booth.
>> - If anyone from eNotary TC (besides myself) is attending RSA,
>>    they could volunteer to man the booth for a couple of hours
>>    to talk about ENML and eNotary TC;
>> - An OASIS representative (assuming someone attends) could then
>>    talk about general OASIS membership; and
>> - I will be there to talk about ENML and SKSML for at least 2
>>    of the 3 three days the booth is available.
>>
>> Aside from a couple of laptops for the SKSML and ENML
>> presentations, we only need a couple of posters on ENML & SKSML
>> (under $100 each from Kinko's) and the OASIS banner (which they
>> already have).
>>
>> All in all, this might give all of us some bang for part of the
>> buck.  If OASIS does not, or cannot, chip-in the $4K, we could
>> ask a few more TC's if they want to participate?  ECF?  Dee (who
>> is copied on the e-mail) could ask a couple of the security TC's
>> if they'd like to participate.  If we got 3-4 TC's, then we
>> could all do it for $1K-$2K each (with volunteer support from
>> each TC).
>>
>> What do you all think?
>>
>> Arshad
>>
>>
>> Marc L. Aronson wrote:
>>> Arshad:
>>>
>>> Here is part of an email I wrote NASS about you being a speaker at 
>>> NASS-NPA this summer. Below you will find their answer.
>>>
>>> I have also written the NPA directly, but have not received a response 
>>> as of this time and date.
>>>
>>> Marc A.
>>>
>>> *My question:*
>>>
>>> I belong to a committee that wants to have a speaker at the NPA part of 
>>> the Summer NASS meeting. I assume that anyone can come in and speak to 
>>> the NPA section without any problem or fee as long as the NPA approves. 
>>> This person/committee might want to set up a vendor booth (the 
>>> organization is OASIS, a world wide technology organization). While you 
>>> may not have determined your vendor fees for this summer yet, may I 
>>> please have an example of what they are for this winter’s conference; 
>>> that will be close enough for planning purposes.
>>>
>>> *Their answer:*
>>>
>>> If NPA invites you to speak this summer, that is the only approval you 
>>> need.  If you intend to stay for any of the conference beyond your day 
>>> of the presentation, you would need to register.  Registration fees for 
>>> the summer conference will probably be around $900 for a corporate 
>>> non-member (a business entity that is not a corporate affiliate of 
>>> NASS).  Exhibit booths at the summer conference usually run about $500.
>>>
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