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Subject: Re: [odf-adoption] RE: need confirmation on ODF Camp


On 2007-05-30, at 13:20 , Dieter Loeschky wrote:

> Hi,
> I would love to see technical presentations (e.g. reports from the  
> Metadata SC, Formula SC, ...) as well as status presentations (e.g.  
> ODF roadmap, ODF adoption, ...).

These technical presentations: they can arguably be part of the  
overall OOoCon, yes? We can have, probably, a track or day dedicated  
to ODF presentations.

> Furthermore we should have workshops on ODF interoperability in ODF  
> enabled applications (OOo, KOffice, ...) and ODF processing (server  
> and client side).

The workshop itself is what I envision for a track on Day 1.

> Taking the ODF Toolkit project into account, I hope that we can  
> attract additional audience outside the classic OOo public.

So: Workshop on interoperability (ODF) on Day 1, with presentations  
on ODF in an ODF track as part of the overall conference.

Is that okay?

We could then have final presentations by the vendors of ODF enabled  
apps on the last day, with the focus being on OOo derivatives.

I think that would work.


> Regards,
> Dieter
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> Louis Suarez-Potts schrieb:
>> Hi
>> On 2007-05-29, at 21:12 , Dee Schur wrote:
>>> Hi Louis,
>>> We did discuss your email on the ODF Adoption call this morning  
>>> and I was
>>> hoping that you would have joined the call.
>>> It was mentioned that it may be difficult to keep attendees with  
>>> split
>>> session (19 and 21 of September) on ODF. I'm not certain that  
>>> this is a
>>> problem.
>> Depends.
>>> In terms of the ODF camp, how many competing tracks will occur
>>> simultaneously? Is this a speaker/presentation format? If so, how  
>>> many
>>> speakers? Or is it an interactive learning event with tutorials  
>>> and clinics?
>>> Is this a plug-fest? Who will select the presenters, are you on the
>>> programme committee?
>> Camp: it's a workshop. No presentations except impromptu ones.  
>> Rather, work on code.
>>> If we do a showcase/demo, I would like to approach the  
>>> participating vendors
>>> about sponsorship after I understand the openoffice.org  
>>> conference funding
>>> model.
>> Model: We ask for donations. See http://marketing.openoffice.org/ 
>> ooocon2007/sponsorship.html
>>> But OOoCon may not be in favor of vendors demoing their products?
>> Indeed, we are not. We are in favour of vendors speaking about  
>> experience about their experience with their products, esp. if  
>> they concern OOo--are derived from it or in some way relate to it.  
>> Example could be, KOffice speaking about heterogeneous  
>> environment, KOffice/OOo, say.
>>> A
>>> traditional OASIS InterOp would require a scenario that solves a  
>>> business
>>> problem and solution, they are non-promotional in nature but  
>>> members report
>>> that the InterOps drive business to their company. Of course,  
>>> open-source
>>> participation would also be encouraged. I also wanted to pursue  
>>> the InterOp
>>> because we are trying to increase membership in the Adoption TC  
>>> and the
>>> possibility of participating in this event would encourage these  
>>> potential
>>> new members to join the Adoption TC.
>> OOo and ODF are not quite like regular OASIS formats, I think.
>> The point of the camp is actually to improve interoperability  
>> among the ODF implementations. But the presentations, given at  
>> OOoCon, must really relate to OOo, as well as ODF.
>>> Do we have any idea of number and type of attendees? It is my  
>>> understanding
>>> that this event is heavily attended by public sector folks or is  
>>> it mostly
>>> developers?
>> Both. In years past, numbers have trended up from 300-350.  I  
>> think this year it will be more popular.
>>> I have many more questions, maybe we should plan another call  
>>> since it
>>> sounds like you are under the gun.
>> Quite. :-)
>> But I'm in Moscow for the next couple of days, then back to  
>> London. I can manage one via Skype or equiv., but I want to hear  
>> from Dieter, too.
>>> Thanks!
>>> Dee
>> best
>> louis
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Louis Suarez-Potts [mailto:luispo@mac.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:28 PM
>>> To: odf-adoption@lists.oasis-open.org
>>> Cc: John McCreesh; Dee Schur; Dieter Loeschky
>>> Subject: need confirmation on ODF Camp
>>> Hi
>>> A couple of days ago I sent a note to this list, cc'ing Dee Schur  
>>> and
>>> several others. [0].
>>> No response so far. That's unfortunate. We need to decide on the
>>> logistics of the event, and soon.
>>> Here is the idea:
>>> Wednesday have a 1/2 or even full day "camp" that would work on
>>> "normalizing" interoperability among ODF implementations.
>>> Options:
>>> ** It could run in parallel to the regular scheduled talks, as a  
>>> stream.
>>> Or,
>>> ** it would be one of the streams
>>> The latter option would necessary crowd out other papers.
>>> Opinions?
>>>   My own preference would be to have a parallel track.
>>> Please respond as soon as you can.
>>> best
>>> Louis

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