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Subject: IRC log from today's meeting - 2013-08-14


Please find the IRC log of today's meeting below. 
Our next meeting will be in about two weeks on the 28th of August:

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2013&month=8&day=28&hour=13&min=30&sec=0&p1=179&p2=37&p3=136&p4=234&iv=1800
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office-collab/event.php?event_id=33776

The teleconference login data for next call will be found in the OASIS calendar event (URL above).

Attendees: Thorsten, Oliver, Peter, Luke, Patrick, John, Svante.

[15:30] Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: Hi Patrick
[15:31] Thorsten Behrens: Hi guys!
[15:31] Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: Hi Thorsten
[15:32] John Haug: Hello
[15:32] Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: Hi John
[15:33] Patrick Durusau: Hi Oliver!
[15:34] Peter Rakyta- MultiRacio Ltd.: Hi there!
[15:34] Svante Schubert: Hi
[15:40] Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: Peter: If you have a certain change to the code base, it can be discussed in the corresponding communities. If consensus, all will benefit.
[15:40] Svante Schubert: Discussing Peter's extension and problem with automatic styles
[15:41] Svante Schubert: No, automatic style names should NOT be used, instead properties will be added explicitly to the operation

[15:45] Svante Schubert: OT an old story --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operational_transformation
[15:46] Svante Schubert: If you are working on the third paragraph, it is like: "modify paragraph 3"
if this op is waiting to be wired to a server, but meanwhile you receive another operation of a different user to the same document "insert new paragraph 2"
than you have to insert the new paragraph first, but you still want to adapt the same paragraph, but as a new one was inserted before, it is no longer the 3rd, but the 4th
In another eye-opener example to me was:
Imagine someone is inserting three paragraphs with a, b, c in a sequence
insert a @1
insert b @2
insert c @3
but it would be the same document, if the user starts with c and puts b before and finally a at the very beginning
insert c @1
insert b @1
insert a @1
So, you may find a rule, that when switching two operations in this sequence, and they one is before or at the same position, the position will be adapted
[15:53] Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: thx and bye
[15:53] Svante Schubert: byebye



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