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Subject: Re: [office-metadata] [Fwd: Re: ODF and semantic web]


I really like the idea of having the ODF metadata specification being 
reviewed by the semantic web community and to meet to exchange views.
Furthermore, the OASIS metadata SC seems to me like a good 
representation of the ODF community in regards of metadata.

My thanks for taking this further, Bruce!

Svante

Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
> Any thoughts? It might be a good idea ...
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: ODF and semantic web
> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 10:29:47 -0400
> From: Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>
> To: Mark Birbeck <mark.birbeck@formsPlayer.com>
> CC: Bruce D'Arcus <bdarcus@gmail.com>,    Semantic Web 
> <semantic-web@w3.org>,    W3C RDFa task force 
> <public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org>
> References: <4710D6BC.4080705@gmail.com> 
> <a707f8300710140338g650a0820m8d1df28db4917b2d@mail.gmail.com>
>
> How open is the ODF community to input at this stage?   Would
> it be useful to W3C and ODF to meet and plan mutual review of specs?
> (If so, who should be in the meeting?)
>
> Tim
>
> On 2007-10 -14, at 06:38, Mark Birbeck wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Bruce,
>>
>>> I've mentioned this here before, but more on RDF-in-OpenDocument.
>>>
>>> <http://www.robweir.com/blog/2007/10/odf-enters-semantic-web.html>
>>>
>>> The OpenOffice project is now starting to looking into  implementing 
>>> it,
>>> so people here might be interested.
>>
>> I note that the attributes used in ODF are 'inspired' by RDFa [1]--but
>> why not just incorporate RDFa as is?
>>
>> It's especailly confusing for authors when this 'inpiration' seems to
>> involve copying some RDFa attributes, but changing the names of
>> others. For example, @about is used, but @datatype has been renamed to
>> @data-type!
>>
>> This lack of alignment is a shame, especially when the proponents of
>> ODF are generally critical of the confusion that can be caused by
>> companies and organisations pursuing alternate document formats. There
>> is a fantastic opportunity here for creating tools and search engines
>> that could leverage a 'standard' way of incorporating metadata into
>> HTML, XHTML, ODF, and other mark-up languages. That opportunity now
>> looks like it is going to be missed.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> [1] <http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/25055/ 
>> Metadata_22August2007.txt>
>>
>> -- 
>>   Mark Birbeck, formsPlayer
>>
>>   mark.birbeck@formsPlayer.com | +44 (0) 20 7689 9232
>>   http://www.formsPlayer.com | http://internet-apps.blogspot.com
>>
>>   standards. innovation.
>
>

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