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Subject: Re: [office] Proposed TC Meeting Agenda Items


Mary McRae wrote On 01/18/06 02:58,:
> Hello everyone,
>   Just a couple of comments on Michael's excellent note, below.
> 1. Concern regarding reaching quorum once accessibility sc is up and running. People who are only interested in participating on
> subcommittees should join the TC as members, rather than voting members. That way there is no impact on quorum. There is no
> requirement that one must be a voting member in order to serve on a subcommittee; in fact, the membership categories were changed to
> allow for this flexibility.

Thanks for this clarification.

> 2. Face-to-face meeting. I'd like to suggest that the TC take advantage of holding a face-to-face meeting at the OASIS Symposium
> this year. It will be held in San Francisco in early May. I can put you in touch with Jane Harnad if there is interest.

Thanks for pointing out this possibility. But because the first, and so far 
only, OpenDocument TC meeting took place in Menlo Park in the US, I think it 
would be fair to have this 2nd meeting take place in Europe.

Best regards


> Regards,
> Mary
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Michael Brauer - Sun Germany - ham02 - Hamburg 
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 7:53 AM
>>To: robert_weir@us.ibm.com
>>Cc: office@lists.oasis-open.org
>>Subject: Re: [office] Proposed TC Meeting Agenda Items
>>Robert, all,
>>that's excellent timing. Actually, I wanted to put the 
>>formation of a formula sub committee on the agenda for 
>>Monday, as well as how we organize the TC calls in the future.
>>Regarding the formula sub committee. I have already created a 
>>sub committee charter proposal and will post this today in a 
>>separate mail. I will put this topic on the agenda for our 
>>con call on Monday.
>>Regarding a meta data sub committee. I think that the 
>>spectrum of the meta data topic turned out to be much broader 
>>than we originally thought. For that reason, I think it might 
>>be reasonable to stop the the discussions of meta data 
>>proposals for the moment, and to start a discussion what we 
>>want to achieve in this area. Given the complexity of the 
>>topic I think it would best to do so at a face to face 
>>meeting. I will come back to that topic later in this mail.
>>Regarding the TC calls. I agree that we need a TC 
>>coordination call, not only to better use our time, but also 
>>for quorum reasons. We cannot expect that the accessibility 
>>(and maybe future formula sub committee) members join our 
>>weekly TC call, so it will become difficult to reach a quorum 
>>once the accessibility sub committee has started. My proposal 
>>is that we start with having coordination calls once a  
>>month, with the option to have additional calls on demand.
>>I suggest that we use our Monday time slot for the 
>>coordination call, and have a coordination call every first 
>>Monday in a month (unless this is a public holiday, where we 
>>would move the coordination call to the 2nd Monday).
>>I would further suggest that we use the remaining Mondays for 
>>discussions of those topics that are not covered by sub 
>>committees. Where I'm not sure is whether we should found 
>>something like a "core" or "maintainance" sub committee for 
>>this purpose, or whether it is sufficient to have TC calls 
>>that simply don't count towards voter eligibility.
>>Regarding a face to face meeting: I think it is very 
>>reasonable to have a face-to-face meeting in the near future 
>>where we discuss our goals for 2006 as Robert suggested. This 
>>meeting might also be a good opportunity to discuss how we 
>>continue with the meta data topic.
>>I'm glad that I can offer to have this meeting take place at 
>>our Sun site in Hamburg. I will propose some dates for a 
>>face-to-face meeting in the next days and will put this topic 
>>on our agenda for Monday as well.
>>Best regards
>>robert_weir@us.ibm.com wrote On 01/16/06 17:22,:
>>>I'd like to suggest two agenda item for us to queue up for 
>>>at a future TC call.
>>>1) Proposal to create additional Subcommittees
>>>With the increased TC size (now 16 voting members) we 
>>should probably 
>>>be more protective of how we use our time during the weekly TC call.
>>> Personally, I'm not sure that we have sufficient time during these 
>>>calls to examine technical issues related to metadata, etc., to the 
>>>depth these areas rightfully deserve.  I'd propose that we think of 
>>>the TC call as primarily a meeting to propose and 
>>coordinate direction, and
>>>to review technical proposals.   But we should make more use of 
>>>Subcommittees to develop debate specification areas to the 
>>point where 
>>>the consensus of subject matter experts has been reached.  
>>Then have 
>>>these Subcommittees report back their recommendations to 
>>the full TC for
>>>review.   We're doing this with Accessibility today.  I 
>>think Metadata 
>>>and Spreadsheet Formulas would be two other obvious candidates for 
>>>such an approach.
>>>2)  ODF TC Goals for 2006 .  
>>>This is the type of thing we could discuss in the TC call 
>>if we moved 
>>>some of the other ongoing discussions into Subcommittees.
>>>What do we as a TC want to accomplish over the next 12 months?  
>>>A strawman proposal:
>>>a) Accessibility Subcommittee completes its examination of 
>>ODF 1.0 and 
>>>reports out findings and recommendations
>>>b) TC issues ODF 1.01 specification with errata and Accessibility 
>>>corrections, but no other new capabilities.  In other 
>>words, we agree 
>>>to "fast track" any accessibility requirements.
>>>c) Subcommittee formed to develop and propose further support for 
>>>Metadata and Spreadsheet Formulas.
>>>d) ODF 1.1 draft released with enhanced metadata, spreadsheet 
>>>formulas, and whatever other new features the TC may propose
>>>e) Compliance Subcommittee formed to propose ways to define 
>>>and recommend and perhaps develop a means to verify compliance of 
>>>ODF-supporting applications
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Michael Brauer                                Phone:  +49 40 23646 500
Technical Architect Software Engineering      Fax:    +49 40 23646 550
StarOffice Development
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