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Subject: Re: [office] List Proposal Vote Deadline on Wednesday
On Tuesday 01 May 2007 22:23:21 Gary Edwards wrote: > This has been a long and often contentious discussion. It's also one > of the most documented discussions the TC has ever recorded. So much > so that if ever the public wanted to know how things really work with > the ODF specification, it's here for all to see. I'd also like to extend the invitation to anyone that feels he needs it to explain things in private mail if they so wish. I say this as I see a comment on the vote that raised my eyebrow this morning; it says this: " While i do believe that the Sun/KOffice List Enhancement proposal is creative and uniquely innovative, i don't believe we get to go back to square one and re invent the wheel; no matter how appealing, tempting, or application benefiting that might be. These issue were easier way back when, but once ODf 1.0 was released to the public, enhancements and changes to the specification demand consideration of larger responsibilities and expectations. The problem becomes that of doing everything we can at the specification level to encourage and accommodate innovative application features and advances; and do so without compromising our legacy obligations." I can fully understand that the question before us is confusing due to the many many mails on the subject. The choice A (sun/koffice proposal) is the result of months of work to a) inventorize what OOo and KO have _actually_ been doing in 1.0 and 1.1 b) inventorize the featueset we want. At this point we noticed that OOo and KO both had a subset of the wanted features, and did so in a non-exclusive manner (since they mostly used different tags for it) c) write a proposal that joins the ideas of both suites (which in the end we not so different) which we now see before us. This has the effect (though it can be missed at first glance) that the 1.2 spec would be designed the way it should AND it would be perfectly backwards compatible with older ODF documents. So I'm very proud of that achievement. To be absolutely clear; if the Novell proposal is accepted; all documents created in KOffice 1.x are useless (wrt the counters). There is no possible way to fit them into the ODF concepts anymore and they need to be considered a different fileformat that needs to be converted to a new one. The Novell proposal makes it easier to convert WW documents to ODF, true. Just don't be confused that the KOffice/Sun proposal makes it harder. Its still possible in both proposals. So, with regards to the above quote; the vote should be different based on the written goals. Hope that clears things up. -- Thomas Zander
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