Re: [office] Groups - proposal: preferred view mode upon opening document (08-06-08-proposal00070) uploaded

["Warren Turkal" <turkal@google.com>]

This is looking good. I am looking forward to the next iteration.

wt

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 21:29, Ming Fei Jia <jiamingf@cn.ibm.com> wrote:
> Hi Warren,
>
> "Warren Turkal" <turkal@google.com> wrote on 10/28/2008 01:52:45 AM:
>
>> From:
>>
>> "Warren Turkal" <turkal@google.com>
>>
>> To:
>>
>> Ming Fei Jia/China/IBM@IBMCN
>>
>> Cc:
>>
>> office@lists.oasis-open.org
>>
>> Date:
>>
>> 10/27/2008 10:54 PM
>>
>> Subject:
>>
>> Re: [office] Groups - proposal: preferred view mode upon opening
>> document (08-06-08-proposal00070) uploaded
>
>>
>> Ming and everyone else,
>>
>> I like the proposal's high-level form at this point, so I am dive into
>> the text a little.
>>
>> The text is a little weak. What do you think of the following text to
>> replace your Preferred View Mode description?
>>
>> The manifest:preferred-view-mode attribute is meant to provide a
>> preference on how the author of the document would like the document
>> to be presented upon the document being opened. This attribute is only
>> applicable to the root file entry with the full path "/". <<<I don't
>> understand the previous sentence, so I left it intact.>>>
> I explained it before. For each stream in ODF zip package, there corresponds
> to a file entry. Only the root file entry has media type as ODF document
> type, e.g."application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text". So I put the preferred
> view mode attribute in the root file entry.
>> There are 3 view modes defined in this spec: "edit",
>> "presentation-slide-show" and
>> "read-only". Alternatively, a namespaced value may be used for
>> application specific views.
> This wording is very similar with Dennis's wording in the previous mail. I
> copy it here.
> "Alternatively, a namespaced value may be used to specify a custom value for
> the preferred view mode."
> The wording game is interesting. I am a little in favor of yours since it is
> more simple.
>
>>Preferred view modes are not necessarily
>> generally applicable to all MIME types, and the default preferred view
>> mode is application specific.
> Dennis also provided a wording for the default value. I copy it here.
> "There is no default value. The behavior of application software is not
> specified for cases where manifest:preferred-view-mode is absent or the
> value is one not provided for."
> I think "default preferred view mode is application specific" and "There is
> no default value" have no fundermental difference. It is only a wording
> game. It depends on we say who has default value. If we say the application
> has default value, "the default preferred view mode is application specific"
> is more appropriate. If we say standard has default value. "there is no
> default value" is more appropriate. I prefer your sentence plus Dennis'
> second sentence. That is "the default preferred view mode is application
> specific.The behavior of application software is not specified for cases
> where manifest:preferred-view-mode is absent or the value is one not
> provided for."
>
>>
>> Also, the "MIME type" phrase is inconsistent even in the snippet of
>> the spec document that you posted. What should we be using? "MIME
>> type", "mime type", and "mime-type" are all used in the spec document
>> snippet you gave.
> I think MIME type is correct. Refer to OpenDocument-v1.2-draf7-10.odt,
> chapter 1.6 MIME types and Name Extensions.
>>
>> We should also add some text about how each of the predefined modes
>> works. For instance, if a document calls for edit mode and the app
>> only support read-only mode, it should probably fall back to read-only
>> mode.
> I think Dennis word "The behavior of application software is not specified
> for cases where manifest:preferred-view-mode is absent or the value is one
> not provided for." includes this meaning. If the value is one not supported
> by the application, the processing is application specific.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> wt
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 08:25,  <jiamingf@cn.ibm.com> wrote:
>> > The document revision named proposal: preferred view mode upon opening
>> > document (08-06-08-proposal00070) has been submitted by Mr. Mingfei Jia
>> > to
>> > the OASIS Open Document Format for Office Applications (OpenDocument) TC
>> > document repository.  This document is revision #2 of
>> > 08-06-08-proposal00070.
>> >
>> > Document Description:
>> > Defined preferred view mode upon opening a document. Pre-defined 3 view
>> > modes:edit,read-only,and presentation-slide-show. Also defined the
>> > custom
>> > view mode pattern that takes a namespacedToken value.
>> >
>> > View Document Details:
>> > http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=29788
>> >
>> > Download Document:
>> > http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/29788/08-06-08-
>> proposal00070
>> >
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