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Subject: Re: [office] Re: DSigProposal references


Bob,

Bob Jolliffe wrote:
> Hi Patrick
>
> Jomar and I both think the note form works well.  It better captures
> the fact that we
> are not proposing doing anything which is outside xml dsig.  I will change it.
>
>   
Glad to be of service!

Hope you are having a great day!

Patrick
> Regards
> Bob
>
> 2009/1/6 Patrick Durusau <patrick@durusau.net>:
>   
>> Bob,
>>
>> Bob Jolliffe wrote:
>>     
>>> Hello Patrick
>>>
>>> Further to this afternoon's discussion I have added references to the
>>> ETSI XAdES standard and the W3C XML-DSIG (courtesy of Dennis).  You
>>> can check what I have here:
>>> http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/DSigProposal.
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> Thanks!
>>     
>>> I'm also not sure about the URI to one-hop-from-what-you-really-want.
>>> I've fudged by saying "available via http://.."; instead of "available
>>> at".  Feels a bit like cheating, but this is the reference the ETSI TC
>>> gave us.  It looks like you can bypass the whole rigmarole and go
>>> straight to http://pda.etsi.org/exchangefolder/ts_101903v010302p.pdf
>>> but perhaps they want readers to read the copyright notice and the
>>> blurb first.
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> Yes, the direct access works but I don't have a serious problem with getting
>> users to read their blurb. ;-)
>>
>> To some degree it is a question of changing practice. To give a URL really
>> is a convenience to the reader, it doesn't really constitute a reference to
>> the work. That is the digital signature standard would exist whether I can
>> access it via http or if I have to request a paper copy. Which would be
>> ironic but not unknown. ;-)
>>
>> BTW, with your current text:
>>
>>     
>>> "Files within a package may have digital signatures applied. These digital
>>> signatures *shall* conform to the W3C XML Digital Signature specification
>>> [xml-dsig]. Applications *may* use extensions to the XML DSIG core
>>> specification, such as those required for implementation of XAdES signatures
>>> specified in ETSI TS 101 903 v1.3.2 [xades]. Digital signatures are stored
>>> in one or more files within the META-INF folder."
>>>       
>> My suggestion was:
>>
>> "Files within a package may have digital signatures applied. These digital
>> signatures *shall* conform to the W3C XML Digital Signature specification
>> [xml-dsig].
>>
>> Note: Applications may use extensions to the XML DSIG core specification,
>> such as those required for implementation of XAdES signatures specified in
>> ETSI TS 101 903 v1.3.2 [xades]. **
>>
>> Digital signatures are stored in one or more files within the META-INF
>> folder."
>>
>> Reasoning that the permissive "may" is actually defined by the W3C
>> specification and not ODF.
>>
>> It is a minor point and if you prefer the full paragraph style I have no
>> serious issue with it. It may be more acceptable to the interests who want
>> this feature to be stated that way.
>>
>> Hope you are having a great day!
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>> --
>> Patrick Durusau
>> patrick@durusau.net
>> Chair, V1 - US TAG to JTC 1/SC 34
>> Convener, JTC 1/SC 34/WG 3 (Topic Maps)
>> Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300
>> Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps)
>>
>>
>>     
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Patrick Durusau
patrick@durusau.net
Chair, V1 - US TAG to JTC 1/SC 34
Convener, JTC 1/SC 34/WG 3 (Topic Maps)
Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300
Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps)



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