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Subject: Re: [office] Fwd: Status on ODF second review request?

Hi Patrick,

there are indeed problems with the XSLT. It is not specific to MathML, but happens too with frames with text. If the frame is anchored as character, only the first frame is exported. You can test it with a text document with one paragraph which has several frames anchored as character.

I'm not very familiar with XSLT. Perhaps Michael or Svante have an idea.

Kind regards

Patrick Durusau schrieb am 08-Sep-20 um 23:26:

You will be glad to know that the TC Admin did reach our request for the second public review!

I inquired about our status and got the email below from Paul Knight.

Looking at the HTML parts he suggests, it is really wretched.

I asked him to hold off publishing until I could ask the TC explicitly if this is what we want to showcase as our work.

Top of the agenda for next week.

Hope everyone is having a great week!


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	Re: Status on ODF second review request?
Date: 	Tue, 8 Sep 2020 14:55:03 -0400
From: 	Paul Knight <paul.knight@oasis-open.org>
To: Patrick Durusau <patrick@durusau.net>, Chet Ensign <chet.ensign@oasis-open.org>

Hi Patrick,

I just took a quick look at the files, and have a few observations:
- justÂlooking at the files, I wondered about the HTML versions of the three RNG files. This is new. No problem, we'll include them along with the other files into /schemas subdirectory. (I see internal documentationÂ"In order to meet the evolving needs of the Internet community, the XML grammar RNG files will be rendered as well into a HTML publication format.", so it removes my concern that the inclusion of these RNG-HTML files might have been triggered by a misinterpretationÂof OASIS publication requirements...) - In general, the files look very good, probably ready to publish, except for...

The HTML representation of mathematical expressions is still atrocious in many instances. So I'd like to verify whether the TC wants to proceed with publishing these HTML files as-is, or try to work on this.

A couple of examples are in Part 3 and Part 4:

Part 3:
- HTML for Section 20.27 "chart:interpolation" is really badly scrambled, with apparent repetitions (note "where for all") and lots of dropped math expressions - when compared to the PDF or ODT.

Part 4:

Part 4 shows very serious corruption of the HTML version, in handling the presentation of some of the more complicated mathematical formulas. A good example is seen in 6.18.41 (LINEST). Compare the PDF format with the HTML format, beginning several lines below TABLE 29 - Linest (OpenDocument-v1.3-csd03-part4-formula.html#refTable28) [also note minor discrepancy in the name of the tag - 28 vs 29].

Below the text "and define the following matrices:", the PDF shows three matrices, but the HTML only shows the first of these three matrices.
Just below that, the PDF has the text:
- "Let X^T denote the transpose of X, see TRANSPOSE 6.5.6. Then the matrix product X^TâX is a square matrix. If X^TâX is not invertible, then LINEST shall either return an error or calculate a result as described below." (and several lines, below, the text "These a,b1,â,bn"

The HTML shows the same text as:
- "Let
These a,b1,â,bn"
The HTML appears to simply discard big blocks of text and formulas appearing after the first math expression in a sentence.

So - proceed withÂpublishing this as-is, or try to fix the HTML issues with math?

Best regards,

On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 9:27 AM Chet Ensign <chet.ensign@oasis-open.org <mailto:chet.ensign@oasis-open.org>> wrote:

    Hi Patrick,

    Hope you had a happy day off. Beautiful weather up here and I
    finally got my boat set up, in time for the last 2 months of the

    I think Paul has been checking it out but copying him here so he can
    reply. Paul, the ticket is

    Patrick, generally we take them in rank order.



    On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 5:15 PM Patrick Durusau <patrick@durusau.net
    <mailto:patrick@durusau.net>> wrote:


        Cleaning off my desk a bit and had mistakely look at your JIRA
        queue in
        ticket # order. Then I thought I don't understand what order you
        use for

        So, just curious where we might be on the second request for ODF?

        I've got a funded TC member whose job it is to gnaw on my
        ankles. After
        years of my supporting them in the TC. Shrugs, it's of no moment.

        Hope you are looking forward to a great weekend!


-- Patrick Durusau
        patrick@durusau.net <mailto:patrick@durusau.net>
        Technical Advisory Board, OASIS (TAB)
        Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300
        Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps)

        Another Word For It (blog): http://tm.durusau.net
        Homepage: http://www.durusau.net
        Twitter: patrickDurusau

    Chet Ensign
    Chief Technical Community Steward
    OASIS: Advancing open source & open standards for the information

    Mobile: +1 201-341-1393

Paul Knight <mailto:paul.knight@oasis-open.org>....Document Process Analyst <https://www.oasis-open.org/people/staff/paul-knight> OASIS <https://www.oasis-open.org/> - Advancing open standards for the information society

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