ODF Teleconference Notes from 31 Jan. 2022

[Patrick Durusau <patrick@durusau.net>]

Greetings!

Notes from the ODF Teleconference 31 Jan. 2022 follow below.

Hope everyone is at the start of a great week!

Patrick

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*Patrick:*  1. Dial-In, Roll Call, Determination of Quorum and Voting Rights

2. Motion (simple majority): Approve the Agenda

3. Motion (simple majority): Approve minutes of 24 Jan 2022
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/202201/msg00016.html

4. Allow overlap graphic property (new language suggestion by Regina

 https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4047

5. Regina has a response from LibreOffice team on the db: namespace:

https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/de/users/2022/msg00081.html

6. inconsistent "character style" in 19.838 text:main-entry-style-name, 19.880 text:style-name

https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4119

7. 6.4.2 <text:ruby-base> contains misplaced description of text:ruby's attribute

https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4120

8. Add EASTERSUNDAY Function

https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2164

9. Issues open for ODF 1.4:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20OFFICE%20AND%20status%20%3D%20Open%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%20%22ODF%201.4%22

10. Adjournment.

*Patrick:*  quorum - yes

*Patrick:*  Patrick - add holidays for 2022 to agenda before substantive issues

*Patrick:*  agenda approved by consent

*Patrick:*  minutes - of Jan. 24th - approved by consent

*Patrick:*  Holidays for 2022

*Patrick:*  Family Day 21st

*Patrick:*  April 18, 2022 - Easter Monday

*Patrick:*  May 2, 2022 - Bank Holiday in UK

*Patrick:*  May 23, 2022 Victoria Day

*Patrick:*  May 30th, 2022 - Memorial Day

*Patrick:*  July 4, 2022 - Independence Day

*Patrick:*  6th of June - Pentacost

*Patrick:*  August 1, 2022 - Heritage Day

*Patrick:*  August 29, 2022 - Late Summer - Holiday

*Patrick:*  Sept. 5, 2022 Labor Day

*Patrick:*  October 10, 2021 - Thanksgiving (Canada)

*Patrick:*  October 3, 2022 - German Unity

*Patrick:*  October 31, 2022 - German Reformation

*Patrick:*  November 28, 2022 - Monday after Thanksgiving

*Patrick:*  December 26, 2022 - Monday after Christmas

*Patrick:*  January 2, 2022 - Monday after New Year's

*Patrick:*  January 16, 2023 - Martin Luther King Day

*Patrick:*  21st of February 2022 is Family Day

*Patrick:*  Feb. 14th 2022 - Valentines Day

*Patrick:*  Holidays for 2022 - post as separate email

*Patrick:*  https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4047

*Patrick:*  The way to prevent overlap is implementation-dependent. -> Prevention of overlap is implementation-dependent.

*Patrick:*  Regina says prevention isn't the same as way to prevent overlap - we don't specify which way to move the object or all objects or only one

*Patrick:*  Francis agrees -

*Patrick:*  How a display is modified to prevent overlap is implementation-dependent. ???

*Patrick:*  Alfred - does ODF have the concept of Z index?

*Patrick:*  Michael Zed doesn't help

*Patrick:*  Regina, zed only needed if they overlap

*Patrick:*  scratch my earlier suggestion -> How the displayed layout is modified to prevent overlap is implementation-dependent.

*Patrick:*  Regina and Francis agree to that line.

*Patrick:*  About to add to the resolution field:

The draw:allow-overlap attribute specifies, whether a frame or graphic object may overlap other frame or graphic objects. The defined values for the draw:allow-overlap attribute are:
true: The object may overlap other frame or graphic objects.
false: The consumer should change the displayed layout so, that the object does not overlap with other frame or graphic objects. How the displayed layout is modified to prevent overlap is implementation-dependent.
The attribute is ignored in case the attribute style:wrap is evaluated to value run-through on the same object.
The default value for the attribute draw:allow-overlap is true.

*Patrick:*  Francis - style hierarchy - sets the property - run-through is an attribute value - should be so styled when edited

*Patrick:*  With edits:

The draw:allow-overlap attribute specifies whether a frame or graphic object may overlap other frame or graphic objects. The defined values for the draw:allow-overlap attribute are:
true: The object may overlap other frame or graphic objects.
false: The consumer should change the displayed layout so that the object does not overlap with other frame or graphic objects. How the displayed layout is modified to prevent overlap is implementation-dependent.
The attribute is ignored in case the attribute style:wrap is evaluated to value <attributeValue>run-through</attributeValue> on the same object.
The default value for the attribute draw:allow-overlap is true.

*Patrick:*  Libre office response on db: namespace - Regina will add to the Google Spreadsheet and translate it

*Patrick:*  Patrick - need to contact Thorsten on the db: namespace - anyone to work on it?

*Patrick:*  https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4119

*Patrick:*  style:family defines types of styles and character isn't one of them.

*Patrick:*  Regina, do we want short form - text style, or a long form -

*Patrick:*  Regina - character family style - text style

*Patrick:*  Francis - replace character family style with text style

*Patrick:*  adjourned

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Patrick Durusau
patrick@durusau.net
Technical Advisory Board, OASIS (TAB)
Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300
Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps)

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