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Subject: Notes from ODF TC Teleconference 12-12-2022


Notes from the ODF TC teleconference on 12-12-2022 follow below.

Hope everyone is at the start of a great week!



*Patrick:*  Quorum - yes

*Patrick:*  agenda approved by consent

*Patrick:*  minutes of 21 November 2022 approved by consent

*Patrick:*  #5: OFFICE-4132

*Patrick:*  Michael agrees to close Office-4136 - covered by Office-4132

*Patrick:*  https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4132

*Regina Henschel:*  "common-draw-shape-with-styles-attlist"

*Patrick:*  Regina says we need to go to common-draw-shape-with-styles-attlist

*Regina Henschel:*  "common-draw-shape-with-styles-attlist"

*Regina Henschel:*  "common-draw-shape-with-text-and-styles-attlist"

*Svante:*  http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/OpenDocument/v1.3/os/schemas/OpenDocument-v1.3-schema-rng.html#1755

*Patrick:*  Regina - something in the element or something in the style

*Regina Henschel:*  Is it an attribute of the element or part of the style?

*Michael Stahl:*  i dont think it makes sense to set on a style - similar to z-index or anchor

*Svante:*  https://tdf.github.io/odftoolkit/odf1.3/OpenDocument-v1.3-reference.html#attribute_draw:z-index_1

*Svante:*  Does all the images have an attribute in common? Like @svg:width:https://tdf.github.io/odftoolkit/odf1.3/OpenDocument-v1.3-reference.html#attribute_svg:width_1

*Svante:*  https://tdf.github.io/odftoolkit/odf1.3/OpenDocument-v1.3-reference.html#element_svg:title_1

*Patrick:*  Regina - purpose is same as svg title/desc -

*Patrick:*  Regina - replace svg title/desc with reference that includes the decoration attribute

*Michael Stahl:*  except drawage and draw:layer - those are not shapes

*Michael Stahl:*  and draw:area-rectangle

*Patrick:*  Michael will review elements to see which ones can be grouped for a new decoration attribute and which need separate attributes.

*Patrick:*  https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-comment/202212/msg00000.html

*Patrick:*  Michael will prepare an updated proposal on the decorative issue

*Patrick:*  Andreas - should have said Date - but thinks it is a non-issue - could have been clearer

*Regina Henschel:*  office:value-type="float" und office:value="44985"

*Regina Henschel:*  office:value-type="date" und office:date-value="2022-03-29"

*Regina Henschel:*  Note in 4.3.1 General

*Francis Cave:*  Editorial note: In Part 4 OpenFormula, section 4.3.1, the paragraph following the Note duplicates the final sentence of the paragraph preceding the note. One of these should be deleted.

*Patrick:*  Andreas - automatic formatting is outside of the standard - doesn't address hueristics

*Patrick:*  4.3.3 Date - Date is represented by an integer value.

A serial date is the expression of a date as the number of days elapsed from a start date called the epoch.

Evaluators shall support all dates from 1904-01-01 through 9999-12-31 (inclusive) in calculations, should support dates from 1899-12-30 through 9999-12-31 (inclusive) and may support a wider date range.

*Patrick:*  This returns the current day's serial number, using current locale.

*Regina Henschel:*  Applications may do automatic formatting depending on the type of a function. But such heuristic is not part of the standard. For the standard 'date' is only a subtype of 'number'. In case a consumer wants to know the formating desired by the author, it can use the office:value-type in the file markup.

*Patrick:*  adjourned -

Patrick Durusau
Technical Advisory Board, OASIS (TAB)
Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300
Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps)

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