OIC TC 2011-11-30 Meeting Minutes

["Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>]

OIC COORDINATION CALL
Date:  Wednesday 30 November 2011
Time:  14:30 - 15:30 UT
 
1. LOGISTICS
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The chat room: <http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/oic>
(doesn't count for attendance) 
 
The call-in numbers: 
 <https://www.teleconference.att.com/servlet/glbAccess?process=1&accessCode=84367726&accessNumber=2158616239>
 
Meeting agendas also provide the pass codes and the commonly-used call-in numbers
<http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201111/msg00012.html>

The action items (log-in required):
<http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oic/members/action_items.php> 
 
 
1.1 ROLL CALL AND QUORUM CHECK
The 5/6 voting members present satisfied the 4/6 quorum requirement.
 
    MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE
    * Bart Hanssens, Fedict (Chair)
      Mingfei Jia, IBM
      Rob Weir, IBM
    * Andreas Guelzow, Individual
    * Dennis Hamilton, Individual (Secretary)
    * Svante Schubert, Individual
    * John Haug, Microsoft

      [* = Voting Member at start of meeting (5)
       + = becoming Voting Member at conclusion of meeting (0)
       = = Persistent Non-Voting Member (0)]
 
    MEMBERS ABSENT
      Charles Schulz, Ars Aperta
      Peter Junge, Beijing Sursen International
      Alex Wang, Beijing Sursen International 
      Jeremy Allison, Google Inc.
      Don Harbison, IBM
    * Louis Suarez-Potts, Individual
      Cherie Ekholm, Microsoft
      Doug Mahugh, Microsoft
      Eric Patterson, Microsoft
      Kazmer Koleszar, MultiRacio
      Alan Clark, Novell
      Bernd Eilers, Oracle Corporation
      Andrew Rist, Oracle Corporation
      Tom Rabon, Red Hat
      Jerry Smith, US Department of Defense
 
      [* = Voting Member at start and end of meeting (1)
       - = Voting Member becoming non-voting Member at end of meeting (0)
       = = Persistent Non-Voting Member (0)]
 
1.2 PREVIOUS MEETING MINUTES
Minutes for the 2011-11-02 Meeting, approved without objection: 
   <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201111/msg00011.html>

1.3 TODAY'S AGENDA, approved without objection:
   <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201111/msg00012.html>
 
2. STATUS OF ACTION ITEMS
  #0015 Template Scenarios.  Dennis reported no progress.  
  #0041 Battery of ODF 1.2 Assessment Documents.  Rob reports that this has morphed into collecting documents from different applications to see what is happening with respect to interoperability.  It seems easier to put together, but not a formal test suite. Different ways of finding existing documents are being explored.  
  #0042 Update Draft Advisory 00005 - This still needs a review look.  Bart will make a final check.
  #0043 Update Draft Advisory 00004 - work in progress
  #0044 Split up Advisory 00002 work to break apart and discuss on the mailing list still to be done.  This should be assigned to Dennis, who had offered to do the break-up.
  #0045 NEW: Addition of some valid signatures that use namespaces correctly but differently
  #0046 NEW: Update Advisory 00007 to repair the wording and reflect in ODF 1.2 Errata and DOF 1.3.
    
3. DELIVERABLES / TEST CASES

3.1 Interop Advisories, 

<http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/svn/oic/Advisories/> 
and <http://wiki.oasis-open.org/oic/InteropAdvisories>

#00002 - Trailing slash in URIs of embedded documents - see Action Item #0044
#00007 - Dennis has the action item to do the rewording (Action Item #0046)
#00008 - Signature name spaces.  Bart has the action to provide an example of a valid signature that correctly uses namespaces in a way that some consumers don't handle properly (Action Item #0045)
#00009 - This is still a plaeholder.  Dennis needs to find a way to keep this simple and direct.

3.2 Other Deliverables

"State of Interoperability" will be one year old in December.  It looks like an update would be possible by 2012-04, using the Committee Note template.

4. FEEDBACK FROM THE GOUDA PLUGFEST
<http://plugtest.opendocsociety.org/doku.php?id=plugfests:201111_gouda:info> 

   There was some testing of RDF.  It is difficult to tell what should be done at the user level.  Also, different implementations don't necessarily support the same RDF vocabularies.
   Some application-specific problems showed up with importing of SVG images.
   The Dutch session was about generating official documents and the strict guidelines there are for their layout and appearance.  Differences in font availability is an issue.  (There is a way to embed fonts in ODF documents, but no one is supporting it at the moment.)
   Web versions of ODF producers and consumers are not very good about tabs.
   There were issues and feature requests with regard to notes, frames, and advanced numbering of lists.
 
5. ROUND TABLE
 
The next Plugfest is in Brussels in April.  The April 26-27 date that Microsoft originally offered seems to be in doubt.  


6. FUTURE MEETING PLANNING

The December 28 meeting is cancelled.

The next call is on December 14.

January 11, 2012 is the first scheduled call in 2012.



Respectfully submitted,

  Dennis E. Hamilton, OIC TC Secretary