OIC TC 2012-04-18 Meeting Minutes

["Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>]

OIC COORDINATION CALL
Date:  Wednesday 18 April 2012
Time:  13:30 - 14:30 UT
 
1. LOGISTICS
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The chat room: <http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/oic>
(doesn't count for attendance) 
 
The call-in numbers: 
 <https://www.teleconference.att.com/servlet/glbAccess?process=1&accessCode=84367726&accessNumber=2158616239>
 
Meeting agendas also provide the pass codes and the commonly-used call-in numbers
<http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201204/msg00006.html>

The action items (log-in required):
<http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oic/members/action_items.php> 
 
 
1.1 ROLL CALL AND QUORUM CHECK

The 5/6 voting members present satisfied the 4/6 quorum requirement for start of the meeting. 

    MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE
    * Bart Hanssens, Fedict (Chair)
    + Don Harbison, IBM
    * Mingfei Jia, IBM
      Rob Weir, IBM
    * Andreas Guelzow, Individual
    * Dennis Hamilton, Individual (Secretary)
    * John Haug, Microsoft

      [* = Voting Member at start of meeting (5)
       + = becoming Voting Member at conclusion of meeting (1)
       = = Persistent Non-Voting Member (0)]
 
    MEMBERS ABSENT
      Charles Schulz, Ars Aperta
      Peter Junge, Beijing Sursen International
      Alex Wang, Beijing Sursen International 
      Jeremy Allison, Google Inc.
    - Svante Schubert, Individual
      Louis Suarez-Potts, Individual
      Cherie Ekholm, Microsoft
      Doug Mahugh, Microsoft
      Eric Patterson, Microsoft
      Kazmer Koleszar, MultiRacio
      Bernd Eilers, Oracle Corporation
      Andrew Rist, Oracle Corporation
      Tom Rabon, Red Hat
      Jerry Smith, US Department of Defense
 
      [* = Voting Member at start and end of meeting (0)
       - = Voting Member becoming non-voting Member at end of meeting (1)
       = = Persistent Non-Voting Member (0)]
 
1.2 PREVIOUS MEETING MINUTES
Minutes for the 2012-04-04 Meeting, approved without objection: 
   <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201204/msg00003.html>

1.3 TODAY'S AGENDA, approved without objection:
   <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/oic/201204/msg00006.html>
 
2. STATUS OF ACTION ITEMS
  #0015 Template Scenarios.  No progress 
  #0041 Battery of ODF 1.2 Assessment Documents.  Rob mentioned that he was driving a test of encryption interoperability at the Plugfest.  
  #0044 Split up Advisory 00002  - Dennis added more to the advisory but has not begun splitting material out into separate chunks yet.
  #0046 Update Advisory 00007 - easy to do, still no progress yet
    
3. DELIVERABLES / TEST CASES

3.1 Other Interop Advisories

The advisories that are not yet candidates:

   #00002 in progress
   #00007 pending
   #00008 has more test documents on digital signatures.  It remains for anyone to be able to demonstrate that the tests all current products fail are actually correctly signed.  The ODF Toolkit may provide confirmation of that when it has digital signature support.
   #00009 no material on Protection Key Safety yet

Bart encouraged those who have ideas for other scenarios and advisories to start something.

There was discussion whether an advisory on encryption was called for, now that other encryptions are allowed with ODF 1.2 documents.  Dennis thought that the requirements of the ODF 1.2 specification where quite clear.  

There was also some discussion of the C-J-K group work on improving layout of Asian texts and whether there is anything at JTC1 SC34 that might be adaptable to an advisory.

3.2 Second "State of Interoperability" Report

No discussion beyond consideration possible capture of information from the next plugfest and development of the second report after the Plugfest.


3.3 Other Deliverables

There was discussion about profiles and whether there was anything to accomplish here.  At the Plugfest, Louis is making a presentation and then there's a panel on documents in the cloud.  We chatted about subsets of ODF, use of HTML, and that it has been discussed before.  

There was also consideration of whether there is need for a profile for multi-product agreement on the embedding of ODF attachments in PDF documents.

With regard to test documents, Rob mentioned that a suite of tests that IBM has will become available to the Apache OpenOffice project under ALv2.  It was not clear how and whether those could be contributed to the OIC under OASIS IP conditions.

4. ODF EVENTS

4.1 ODF Plugfest, April 19-20, 2012, <http://www.odfplugfest.org> 

Bart reviewed the agenda and talked about the prospects for distant attendance/participation.


5. ROUND TABLE

Bart raised consideration of the future of the OIC and how to expand participation and contribution.  Rob mentioned that more QA folks from China might be able to participate. These may be non-native English speakers in jobs that have them more deeply involved in interoperability issues.

Rob also raised the question about whether or not the charter of OIC should be broadened to document interoperability more broadly, since it is a primary concern for users and developers of actual products, even when ODF is the native or primary format.

6. FUTURE MEETING PLANNING

There will be no 2012-05-02 meeting because of a scheduling conflict.

The next teleconference meeting will be at 2012-05-16.



Respectfully submitted,

  Dennis E. Hamilton, OIC TC Secretary