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Subject: RE: [sca-assembly] RE: [opencsa-liaison] RE: [sca-assembly] Namespaces and Specification CDs....
Replying only to the SCA Liaison SC. Mary has basically informed us that we should be using namespaces in OpenSCA with a prefix of: http://docs.oasis-open.org/ns/opencsa/..., and Mary has an action item from a Steering Committee meeting to write this up. It is not clear to me why the /ns/ is before opensca, as no other TCs use this approach, but such is life. Thus I just wanted to make sure that all OpenSCA TCs are aware of this prefix. Cheers, Martin. >-----Original Message----- >From: Mary McRae [mailto:marypmcrae@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Mary McRae >Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 9:56 PM >To: ashok.malhotra@oracle.com >Cc: 'Mike Edwards'; 'OASIS Assembly'; >opencsa-liaison@lists.oasis-open.org >Subject: [sca-assembly] RE: [opencsa-liaison] RE: >[sca-assembly] Namespaces and Specification CDs.... > > >Thanks Ashok, > > Here's a good example showing interrelationships: > >http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrmp/200702 >http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsmc/200702 > >Regards, > >Mary > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ashok malhotra [mailto:ashok.malhotra@oracle.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 4:34 PM >> To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org >> Cc: 'Mike Edwards'; 'OASIS Assembly'; >> opencsa-liaison@lists.oasis-open.org >> Subject: Re: [opencsa-liaison] RE: [sca-assembly] Namespaces and >> Specification CDs.... >> >> > And who will be providing the requisite namespace document? >> >> Mary, if you point me to one or more examples I will write the >> namespace document. >> >> Ashok >> >> Mary McRae wrote: >> >> > Hi everyone, >> > >> > >> > >> > One of the concerns expressed when the notion of a common >> > namespace was initially brought up was the matter of control and >> > approval. I believe that sca-policy was directed by the >sca-assembly >> > TC to use http://docs.oasis-open.org/ns/opencsa/sca/200712. While >> > this document has not yet gone for Public Review, and no namespace >> > document was provided, I would like to ensure that this is all >> > worked out before more documents get to the Committee >Draft / Public >> > Review stage. Sca-bpel is **also** using the 200712 namespace. Who >> > will instruct the TCs that the namespace used in their >> > specifications needs to be updated? Should all namespace >requests be >> > handled by the Open CSA Liaison subcommittee? >> > >> > >> > >> > And who will be providing the requisite namespace document? >> > >> > >> > >> > Mary >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > *From:* Mike Edwards [mailto:mike_edwards@uk.ibm.com] >> > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2008 3:25 PM >> > *To:* OASIS Assembly >> > *Subject:* RE: [sca-assembly] Namespaces and Specification CDs.... >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Martin, Sanjay, >> > >> > Thanks for digging this out. So, the formal proposal, >which should >> > be placed into the CD of the Assembly spec is: >> > >> > http://docs.oasis-open.org/ns/opencsa/sca/200803 >> > >> > Now, this episode says also the following: >> > >> > a) we need to make clearer decisions as recorded in the meeting >> > minutes - this is a case of something very confusing being >recorded. >> > Not blaming anyone but myself as chair for that, but it >does need to >> > change. >> > >> > b) we need to vote again on the format, since there is a change >> > (forced by OASIS) from the format agreed by the TC >> > - don't think that anyone will object, but I'd like to see >a formal >> > agreement to the actual format that we're going to use >> > >> > >> > Yours, Mike. >> > >> > Strategist - Emerging Technologies, SCA & SDO. >> > Co Chair OASIS SCA Assembly TC. >> > IBM Hursley Park, Mail Point 146, Winchester, SO21 2JN, >Great Britain. >> > Phone & FAX: +44-1962-818014 Mobile: +44-7802-467431 >> > Email: mike_edwards@uk.ibm.com >> > >> > *"Patil, Sanjay" <sanjay.patil@sap.com>* >> > >> > 26/02/2008 16:26 >> > >> > >> > >> > To >> > >> > >> > >> > "Martin Chapman" <martin.chapman@oracle.com>, "OASIS Assembly" >> > <sca-assembly@lists.oasis-open.org> >> > >> > cc >> > >> > >> > >> > Subject >> > >> > >> > >> > RE: [sca-assembly] Namespaces and Specification CDs.... >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > If you follow the link in Martin's email below and open the >> > attachment pointed at the bottom of that link, you will find the >> > right proposal [1] for the namespace URI design. >> > >> > The additional change OASIS staff later required is - insertion of >> > the token 'ns' in the namespace URI. >> > >> > Assuming that the ballot for the first CD passes in Mar 2008, then >> > the namespace URI that would be compliant with the >proposal we have >> > adopted and that incorporates the change suggested by the OASIS >> > staff would look as follows: >> > >> > http://docs.oasis-open.org/ns/opencsa/sca/200803 >> > >> > -- Sanjay >> > >> > [1] >> > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca- >> assembly/email/archives/200710/bin00002.bin >> > >> > >> > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > ---- >> > >> > *From:* Martin Chapman [mailto:martin.chapman@oracle.com] * >> > Sent:* Tuesday, Feb 26, 2008 8:04 AM* >> > To:* 'OASIS Assembly'* >> > Subject:* RE: [sca-assembly] Namespaces and Specification CDs.... >> > >> > Here's a link to the mail i thought we had agreed. >> > >> > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca- >> assembly/email/archives/200710/msg00096.html >> > >> > -----Original Message-----* >> > From:* Martin Chapman [mailto:martin.chapman@oracle.com] * >> > Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2008 3:53 PM* >> > To:* 'Mike Edwards'; 'OASIS Assembly'* >> > Subject:* RE: [sca-assembly] Namespaces and Specification CDs.... >> > >> > This is not what I thought we had agreed to do. We only >need to rev >> > the namespace when non-backwards compatible changes are >made, not at >> > each CD etc. >> > >> > Martin. >> > -----Original Message-----* >> > From:* Mike Edwards [mailto:mike_edwards@uk.ibm.com] * >> > Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2008 10:02 AM* >> > To:* OASIS Assembly* >> > Subject:* [sca-assembly] Namespaces and Specification CDs.... >> > >> > >> > Folks, >> > >> > My view on the namespace is that we should aim to have one and one >> > only and not change it at all until the publication of the "final" >> > version of the specification. Making changes for every >> > CD makes no sense to me. The CD's are drafts and have no >"official" >> > status. >> > >> > Folks who are trying to "follow" the XSDs etc during the spec >> > development process will simply have to put up with the changes, >> > with no assistance from dates in the NS's. Only once there is >> > something official available will there be a need to mark >any future >> > changes with a different NS. >> > >> > So, to cut to the chase how about the following as a namespace for >> > assembly: >> > >> > >> > http://docs.oasis-open.org/OpenCSA/SCA-Common/200803 >> > >> > >> > >> > ...we can vote to change to a later dated namespace once >we get near >> > final publication of OASIS SCA 1.0.... >> > >> > Yours, Mike. >> > >> > Strategist - Emerging Technologies, SCA & SDO. >> > Co Chair OASIS SCA Assembly TC. >> > IBM Hursley Park, Mail Point 146, Winchester, SO21 2JN, >Great Britain. >> > Phone & FAX: +44-1962-818014 Mobile: +44-7802-467431 >> > Email: mike_edwards@uk.ibm.com >> > >> > *Anish Karmarkar <Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com>* >> > >> > 26/02/2008 02:00 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > To >> > >> > >> > >> > Bryan Aupperle <aupperle@us.ibm.com> >> > >> > cc >> > >> > >> > >> > sca-assembly@lists.oasis-open.org >> > >> > Subject >> > >> > >> > >> > Re: [sca-assembly] Groups - >sca-assembly-1.1-spec-WD-03.doc uploaded >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > I agree. >> > But before we do that we need to figure out a NS change >policy: when >> > would we change the namespace between two CDS? Would there be a >> > change for every version, or would it change only when there is a >> > backward incompatible change? Do we need to sync up the NS between >> > various TCs? >> > >> > Putting such a policy in place would be helpful for early >> > adopters/implementers. >> > >> > -Anish >> > -- >> > >> > Bryan Aupperle wrote: >> >> >> >> I know this is a nit, but if we are going to consider WD 03 as a >> >> potential CD, doesn't that mean that date for the >namespace will be >> >> set and therefore the declared namespace at the front of the >> >> document should be filled in and not left as TBD? >> >> >> >> Bryan Aupperle, Ph.D. >> >> STSM, WebSphere Enterprise Platform Software Solution Architect >> >> Master Inventor >> >> >> >> Research Triangle Park, NC >> >> +1 919-254-7508 (T/L 444-7508) >> >> Internet Address: aupperle@us.ibm.com >> >> >> >> >> >> *Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com* >> >> >> >> 02/19/2008 12:50 AM >> >> >> >> >> >> To >> >> sca-assembly@lists.oasis-open.org >> >> cc >> >> >> >> Subject >> >> [sca-assembly] Groups - >> > sca-assembly-1.1-spec-WD-03.doc uploaded >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The document revision named sca-assembly-1.1-spec-WD-03.doc has >> >> been submitted by Dr. Anish Karmarkar to the OASIS Service >> >> Component Architecture / Assembly (SCA-Assembly) TC document >> >> repository. This document is revision #2 of >> >> sca-assembly-1.1-spec-WD-03.doc. >> >> >> >> Document Description: >> >> WD-03 incorporates issues: 1A, 4, 9, 19, 21, 22 >> >> + >> >> - in Implementation and ComponentType section added attribute and >> > element >> >> description for service, reference, and property >> >> - removed comments that helped understand the initial >restructuring >> >> for WD02 >> >> - added changes for issue 43 >> >> - added changes for issue 45, except the changes for policySet and >> > requires >> >> attribute on property elements >> >> >> >> View Document Details: >> >> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca- >> assembly/document.php?document_id=27238 >> >> >> >> Download Document: >> >> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca- >> assembly/download.php/27238/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-WD-03.doc >> >> >> >> Revision: >> >> This document is revision #2 of sca-assembly-1.1-spec-WD-03.doc. >> >> The document details page referenced above will show the complete >> >> revision history. >> >> >> >> >> >> PLEASE NOTE: If the above links do not work for you, your email >> > application >> >> may be breaking the link into two pieces. 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