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Subject: Draft Minutes for today's OpenCSA Steering Committee - 2009-05-08

DRAFT AGENDA - OpenCSA Steering Committee (StC) Draft Agenda - 08 May 2009 9:00 AM PST

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0. Agenda bashing and Roll
        Attending:                  Voting Members (X = Attended)        
                                X        David Burke
                                X        Bob Freund
                                X        Anil Gurnani                                
                                X        Mike Kaiser (Secretary/Vice-Chair)
                                        Mark Little
                                X        Jeff Mischkinsky
                                X        Sanjay Patil
        OASIS Staff:                        
                                        Robin Cover
                                        Jane Harnad
                                        Scott McGrath
                                        Mary McRae
                                        Dee Schur
        Identified Observers:         None
        Notes:                              Mike Kaiser

        - Public Review Comment by Microsoft. The gist of that comment...

1. Minutes Approval

        - 13 March 2009:

        Motion to approve made and seconded.
        APPROVED without objection unanimously.

2. Open Action Item Review and Discussion

        AI20081212-001 - Coordinate an effort with Assembly TC to produce an
                SCA primer as the specs approach standardization (in review).

                STATUS: On Hold until we get closer to standardization.
                        Keep on hold.

        AI20090313-001 Jeff to send the following recommendation to
                the TC's.

                Steering Committee Recommends inclusion of the
                completed test suite with the main package for
                the initial CS vote.

                STATUS: Still open.        

        AI20090313-002 - Jeff to talk with mary to make
                the request to group SCA PR announcements.

                STATUS: COMPLETE - Should now be closed.
                Jeff send the following e-mail to Mary on March 13, 2009.
                Subsequent communications with Mary were done
                to inform her that Assembly and Policy specs should go
                first.  Any others that are ready at the same time should
                also go, but Assembly nor Policy should be held up waiting
                for another TC.

                Will remove from future agendas.

3. Overall TC Milestones Status as discussed by LSC:
        Tentative dates for key milestones:

        On Feb 5, 2009 conf-call [A], the LSC discussed the following as the
        new anticipated schedule for the OpenCSA TCs:

           End Feb – Assembly and Policy TC to start 1st Public Review (60 day)
           Mid March – Other TCs to start 1st Public Review (60 day)
           End June – Finish all the work
           End July – Submit specs to OASIS for OS vote

        ASSEMBLY ONLY (now about a month behind schedule on testing work
                       resulting in the following [B])
           End Feb Test Assertion complete
           End March Test Case complete
           Mid April for Assembly TC only
           End June - 1st Public Review complete
        Recommendation that all other TC's set a similar schedule for
        for about one month later.        

        [A] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/opencsa-liaison/200902/msg00003.html
        [B] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/opencsa-liaison/200901/msg00013.html

        The following represents the current state of each TC relative
        to Public Reviews        

        * = PR 04/24 - 06/23

        SCA-Assembly TC Specifications (V1.1)
                * SCA Assembly Model Specification

        SCA-Policy TC Specifications (V1.1)
                * SCA Policy Framework

        SCA-Bindings TC Specifications (V1.1)
                  SCA Web Services Binding Specification
                  SCA JMS Binding Specification
                  SCA JCA Binding Specification
                  SCA HTTP Binding Specification

        SCA-BPEL TC Specifications (V1.1)
                * SCA WS-BPEL Client and Implementation Specification

        SCA-C/C++ TC Specifications (V1.1)
                * SCA Client and Implementation Model Specification for C
                * SCA Client and Implementation Model Specification for C++

        SCA-J TC Specifications (V1.1)
                  SCA Java Common Annotations and APIs Specification
                  SCA Java Component Implementation Specification
                  SCA EJB Session Bean Binding Specification
                  SCA Spring Component Implementation Specification
                   SCA JEE Integration Specification

        SDO TC Specifications (V3.0)
                  Service Data Objects Specification
                  Service Data Objects for Java

        What is the outlook for SCA-Binding, SCA-J and SDO TC specs?
        Where do each of these stand wrt Test Assertion and Test Case PR's?

        Hat's off to the team on this and a special hat's off to
        Mike Edward's efforts on this.

        SCA-Java TC has now approved approval docs and the package
        which includes the following is        being completed for PR.
                SCA Java Common Annotations and APIs Specification
                SCA Java Component Implementation Specification
        Other specs will follow later (as was the plan).

        SCA-Bindings TC is still about two weeks away from first
        review of first targeted specs.

        SDO is still pretty far away. We need to get a timeline for
        this.  While it should plan to deliver sooner rather than
        later, it is not critical to the other TC's work timelines.


4. Compliant implementation plans
        We know that we need something about mid year.  There are
        several companies working this but implementation timing is
        unknown.  Open Source (Apache Tuscany, looks to be one
        source for at least some of the TC's.  Fabric3 may be another).  
        Each TC will have to make it's own decision on what compliant
        implementations they are going to use based on what's available
        in the         timeframe of standardization and what their test plan
        looks like.

        The SC must eventually resolve the question of "how it will
        make approval decisions" and communicate this to the TC's.
        It is expected that the Testing Plans for each TC will
        incorporate implementation/testing aspects which encompass
        the broader "SCA" picture.

        We must address the following core questions:
          Are we all in agreement that the exit criteria in each
          charter applies to Member Submission for vote and not
          for Committee Specification approval?

          At this stage, what (if any) compliant applications
          are the likely candidates which the SC will likely
          generally accept?

        If there are no updates, then continue to hold on agenda for
        discussion at the next meeting.

        Continue to leave this on the agenda for future meetings.
        Tuscany and Fabric 3 still look to be the best compliancy
        implementation options, but until more of the Test Suite
        deliveries are done, this should remain on hold as far as
        the Steering Committee is concerned.

5. StC Elections
        Three of the 7 Steering Committee positions (currently held
        by Sanjay, Jeff and Anil) are targeted for balloting
        May 13th - May 27th.  

        Nominations will be accepted until Tuesday May 12th.

        Steering Committee                        Next Election
         Member                        Affiliation        for Seat
        -------------------        -----------        -----------
        David Burke                TIBCO                May 2010
        Bob Freund                Hitachi                May 2010
        Anil Gurnani                CSC                May 2009
        Mike Kaiser                IBM                May 2010 Vice-Chair/Secretary
        Mark Little                Red Hat                May 2010
        Jeff Mischkinsky        Oracle                May 2009 Chair
        Sanjay Patil                SAP                May 2009
        The Chair, Vice-Chair and Secretary elected positions
        are in force August 1st 2008, through July 31, 2009.

        Seats elected in May are in effect beginning June 1st.

        Are there any further actions that the StC members need to

        Per business as usual, any bio's for accepted nominations
        will be placed in the 2009 Steering Committee Candidates
        documents folder.  All nominees (even if self nominated)
        need to submit the acceptance letter per process (i.e.
        indicate that they have the time, submit background
        material for bio's etc..).  At this point there are
        three nominations in process, but not all have submitted
        all the required pieces.

6. Any Other Business?

        Microsoft has submitted a Public Review for the SCA-Asscembly
        specification.  This comment, though it needs to be responded
        to by the Assembly TC merits discussion at the Steering
        Committee since it seeks to change the rules of what it means
        to be SCA compliant.

        After much discussion, this boils down to which of the following
        two definitions of compliancy is appropriate to best serve the
        SCA community.

        A) SCA Compliant extensions must be compliant with all of the
                a) SCA Assembly,
                b) SCA Policy,
                c) SCA Binding, and
                d) at least one of the SCA Implementation Types
                    (currently Java, BPEL, C or C++ )

        B) SCA Compliant extensions must be compliant with all of the
                a) SCA Assembly,
                b) SCA Policy and
                c) SCA Binding

        There are pro's and con's to each argument. In the end the Steering
        Committee needs to leave this discussion on the agenda but allow
        the discussion to occur within the Assembly TC.  Ultimately it is
        the Assembly TC which must respond formally.  There is time to
        allow this discussion to happen in the open environment around
        the pro's and con's of each side of the argument.        

7. Future SC Agenda Topics?

8. Next Meeting

           - The next regular teleconference is scheduled for June 12th, 2009
                9:00am PST, 12:00pm EST, 5:00pm UK

        (OpenCSA Steering Committee calls are scheduled for the second Friday
                of each month.)

        It appears that there June 12th meeting may have conflicts with a
        number of Steering Committee members' schedules.  Kaiser will work
        via e-mail to validate with members of the Steering Committee that
        the prior week, June 5th provides a better alternative

9. Adjourn

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