namespaces & actions spec (was Re: [oslc-core] Agenda posted for 10-July-2014)

[Steve K Speicher <sspeiche@us.ibm.com>]

> From: Martin P Pain <martinpain@uk.ibm.com>
> To: Steve K Speicher/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
> Cc: oslc-core@lists.oasis-open.org
> Date: 07/10/2014 05:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [oslc-core] Agenda posted for 10-July-2014 - namespaces & 
actions spec
> Sent by: <oslc-core@lists.oasis-open.org>
> 
> I may or may not be able to attend today. (My apologies if I don't make 
it.)
> If I can make it, I won't be there for all of it. 

Thanks for letting me know, with summer it gets tough but I want to make 
sure we keep up the heartbeat.  I also expect it to not take the full 90 
minutes.

> My input: 
> 
> Namespaces: Perhaps another option is that the open-services.net Core WG 

> continues to maintain the OSLC vocabs, while the OASIS TCs maintain the 
> specs. Somehow the OASIS TC will have to contribute new terms back (or 
> publish them in a form that the open-services.net WG has enough rights 
to 
> pick them up and publish them, then the OASIS spec pick up the updated 
open-
> services.net vocab and update the specs to use it). It would be rather 
> complicated, and somewhat confusing, so probably only worth considering 
as a
> last resort. 

I know we've talked about something like this, I see 2 major problems with 
it:
1. Duplication. People would be confused which one to use.  If 2 impls 
choice each differently, then they see as 2 completely different 
vocabularies.  UNLESS, we host at open-serivces.net the ones that have 
absolute URLs in the documents that are http://docs.oasis-open.org instead 
of open-services.net OR we put in a bunch of owl:sameAs statements.  It 
gets confusing and can see various things that impls could get wrong.
2. OASIS aliasing policy. Which this might be considered as: 
http://docs.oasis-open.org/specGuidelines/ndr/namingDirectives.html#URI-aliases

Let's keep the discussion open, I'm currently working on updating the doc 
with some specific items and pros and cons.  I will make this a priority 
so we can move past this.

> 
> Action Spec review: I don't believe we've received any review feedback 
on 
> this yet (although if we have please remind me as it means I've 
forgotten). 
> 

Yep, got it on the agenda to crack the review/reminder whip.

Thanks,
Steve Speicher
IBM Rational Software
OSLC - Lifecycle integration inspired by the web -> 
http://open-services.net


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> <oslc-core@lists.oasis-open.org> wrote on 09/07/2014 14:00:17:
> 
> > From: Steve K Speicher <sspeiche@us.ibm.com> 
> > To: oslc-core@lists.oasis-open.org, 
> > Date: 09/07/2014 14:00 
> > Subject: [oslc-core] Agenda posted for 10-July-2014 
> > Sent by: <oslc-core@lists.oasis-open.org> 
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> > https://wiki.oasis-open.org/oslc-core/Meetings/Telecon2014.07.10 
> > 
> > Arnaud can't attend and asked that I chair the meeting in his 
> > absence.  Please let me know if you have any agenda items. 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Steve Speicher
> > IBM Rational Software
> > OSLC - Lifecycle integration inspired by the web -> 
http://open-services.net
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