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Subject: RE: [plcs] FW: Question to AP owners/implementors on XML Schema use (Part 28 Edition 2)


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Thanks John,
 
I, for one, was rather alarmed by the impression that the consortium had already made such a decision; apparantly with little debate!
 
I fully agree with your latter statement!
 
Tim (Turner).
-----Original Message-----
From: John Dunford [mailto:esukpc15@gotadsl.co.uk]
Sent: 08 June 2004 15:03
To: 'Tim King'; plcs@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [plcs] FW: Question to AP owners/implementors on XML Schema use (Part 28 Edition 2)

Although I have not been much involved of late I agree with Tim that the proposed wording could be improved.  The aim is to enable XML, not to kill off EXPRESS. 
 
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tim King [mailto:tmk@lsc.co.uk]
Sent: 03 June 2004 09:59
To: 'plcs@lists.oasis-open.org'
Subject: [plcs] FW: Question to AP owners/implementors on XML Schema use (Part 28 Edition 2)

It has been suggested that the quote at point 6 below:

"The PLCS consortium is planning on publishing the AP239 ARM XML Schema through OASIS, so they don t expect implementations to be EXPRESS-based."

is not an agreed OASIS PLCS TC position in respect of not using EXPRESS-based implementations.  Certainly, I believe that the second half of the sentence is not a logical sequitur of the first.  I have made this second point to the receipients of the original message.

As ever,
Tim.

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At 04:39 PM 12/2/2003 +0000, David Price wrote:

>Hello WG3 and WG12,
>
>
>
>We ve been working with the AP233 and AP239 teams on Part 28 Edition 2 and
XML Schema. Part 28 E2 introduces a configuration language allowing the
production of an XML schema to be tailored for an EXPRESS schema. The
tailoring can happen at the global, entity and/or attribute level. The
issue that has been raised during the discussions with AP233 and AP239 is
if, or how, this capability should be used.
>
>
>
>I m trying to gather business requirements and technical requirements in
this area. If you have requirements or usage scenarios in this area, I d
appreciate hearing about them.
>
>
>
>So far, what I ve heard from these two teams (and relayed to the Part 28
team today) is the following:
>
>
>
>1) A single configuration to produce a default data exchange XML Schema
for both (or all?) APs is required. Some have said they want WG3/SC4 to
agree and mandate a single configuration for AP implementation.
>
>2) Exactly what the XML document looks like is not that important as a
high level, model based API will be used.
>
>3) The XML schema elements should be recognizable as being derived from
the EXPRESS schema, but trying to reflect the EXPRESS structure in XML is
less important than simplicity and consistency.
>
>4) Interoperability, and therefore the same configuration, is a high
priority for AP233, AP239 and PDM capabilities.
>
>5) The first AP233 and AP239 implementations will be based on the ARM, not
the AIM. This may continue to be true for all implementations as well.
>
>6) The PLCS consortium is planning on publishing the AP239 ARM XML Schema
through OASIS, so they don t expect implementations to be EXPRESS-based.
>
>
>
>Do other AP teams share these requirements? I agree they are not all
completely consistent (ARM v. AIM), but requirements seldom are. If your
requirements are different, in what way?
>
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>David
>
>
>
>Phone +44 20 7704 0499
>
>Mobile +44 7788 561308
>
>8 Highbury Place, Flat 5
>
>London N5 1QZ
>
>





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