RE: [plcs] Notes from Modellers session in Lillehammer / Norway 3-4 March 2005

[Gordon Robb <gor@lsc.co.uk>]

Title: Notes from Modellers session in Lillehammer / Norway 3-4 March 2005

Hi Matt,

Lucky you had not been to any other 'sites'.

I was hoping to have found the correct definitions against those headers.

I have now done that exercise and I have serious reservations from a standards viewpoint that DEX 0 is appropriately addressing what you describe as a APL due to this being USN specific and very definitive in what it contains.

 

Gordon

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Subject: SV: [plcs] Notes from Modellers session in Lillehammer / Norway 3-4 March 2005

I'm the guilty one.

I just pasted links from my list of visited pages in explorer to give the example document a more "real" fealing...

 

Regards,

  Mats

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Mats Nilsson   
KE Logistic Methods
FMV - Swedish Defence Materiel Administration

 

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Ämne: RE: [plcs] Notes from Modellers session in Lillehammer / Norway 3-4 March 2005

Hi Trine,

A couple or more comments in respect to the attachment documentation:-

1. In the Business concept documentation for APL the following  take the reader to some 'funny' web sites:

'US DoD (http://www.polisen.se/)

part_list (http://www.aftonbladet.se/)

Refdata1 (http://www.mip-site.org/)

Refdata2 (http://www.w3.org/)

Refdata3 (http://www.download.com/)

 - was this a test to ensure we read the doc.

 

The document is obviously immature in respect to content.

 

An APL (on review) is a term, as you state, used by the US Navy and is relative explicit in its use (http://www.tpub.com/content/engineering/14079/css/14079_115.htm) "ALLOWANCE PARTS LIST (APL)  .- The APL is a technical document prepared for a specific item or component  of  equipment.  It  lists  descriptive  data  and characteristics of the equipment, repair parts, and other technical and supply management information. The COSAL binder should contain an APL for every item or component of equipment on board the ship."

Have the NOR pilot used the APL to the USN definition?

 

2. In the "Modellers Session" minutes  (Business concepts) a decision has been taken to use "Textually description (structured English) of all rules to be written in structured English (e.g. Gellish). Source of structured English: www.simplifiedenglish-aecma.org". This decision seems slightly outside of what we had previously used (Shorter Oxford dictionary) for ISO 10303 AP 239 work. Looking at " ASD SIMPLIFIED TECHNICAL ENGLISH Specification ASD-STE100^{TM pending" - AECMA Simplified English was developed to help the users of English-language documentation in the aerospace sector understand what they read, particularly in multinational programs. Since the first publication of the  Simplified English Guide, other non-aerospace industries have adopted the principles of AECMA Simplified English for their own documentation. This decision seem to detract from the use of Terminology dictionary generated for all AP239 users. Also it is another delta+ cost, in that the standard has to be bought.} 

^{Is this a safe decision}

 

^Gordon.

 

 

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Subject: [plcs] Notes from Modellers session in Lillehammer / Norway 3-4 March 2005

All.
Please find attached Notes and some attachments from the Modellers session in Lillehammer 3-4 March 2005.

<<Modellers session Lillehammer 3-4 March V2.zip>> <<Attachments.zip>>

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Trine Hansen
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Det Norske Veritas AS
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