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Subject: RE: [public-sector-cloud-discuss] list of public sector cloud requirements

So, putting together Peter's earlier thread with Tony's later one..

I agree with Peter's comment about the liaisons, which go further, as Tony alludes to.

To the 'unique selling point', I think Tony's list starts to get down to the kind of level of detail that might set this work apart. 


-----Original Message-----
From: public-sector-cloud-discuss@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:public-sector-cloud-discuss@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Tony Rutkowski
Sent: Friday, 8 June 2012 4:57 p.m.
Cc: public-sector-cloud-discuss@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [public-sector-cloud-discuss] list of public sector cloud requirements

Hi all,

The attached slide from one of my presentations at ISS here in Prague was intended as a listing of the emerging requirements.

Yaana Technologies would support the group's activities.

I also serve as ETSI TC LI's liaison to most external organizations with respect to the TC's work on Cloud/ Virtualization LI and Retained Data specifications as co-rapporteur of these work items.


Hi, in no particular order, just a few preliminary comments.

-	I would like, formally, to be added to the list of proposers. I thought that I had done this already, my apologies for being behind the curve...;
-	TC name is OK and I think it will be inevitable that the acronym "PACR" will be pronounced "pacer" - let's be ready for that!;
-	Relationship with other OASIS work: several TCs are working on related topics (IDCloud, TOSCA, PMRM, TGF, to name a few) - we need to be very clear about the "unique selling point" of this proposed TC and what gap it intends to fill (some personal ideas follow);
-	Relationship with ISO, especially JTC1/SC38/WG1 - we seem to have gotten off to a rocky start in our relationship with SC38 WG2 (covering SOA), with no information coming back from ISO about initiatives and relevant and valid OASIS work (such as the SOA-RM) not being promoted. We must ensure that the same fate does not befall any relationship with WG1 looking at cloud standards;
-	We should also look at several ISO standards that cover aspects of IT governance and cloud computing (for example ISO 10746, 15414, many of the 27000-series (in particular 207702, 27005, 27010, 27017 and 27018, 27036 parts 5 and 6, 30120 and 38500) and that may involve liaison with JTC1/WG6 and SC7/WG40.
-	The Transformational Government Framework TC has had success in the creation and use of a "pattern language" -this proposed TC would seem to occupy the same "level" of policy guidance rather than wanting to create down-in-the-weeds technical specifications. Could we maybe consider that a further set of patterns could be developed (at least as one of the proposed specifications) and that could mutually cross-reference with the TGF Patterns (particularly as we may be considering - within TGF and/or JTC1 SC?
My 0.02 worth at this early stage

Best regards,
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