Subject: Re: [regrep]GCN:"Would a governmentwide XML schema registry cut duplication?"
That all sounds great. Thanks Farrukh! Joe Farrukh Najmi wrote: > > Chiusano Joseph wrote: > > >Thanks Farrukh. I was actually referring to "more native" than we > >currently do. That is, folks pick up our specs, look for references to > >registering these items, and they do not find a reference - they then > >come to the conclusion that the registry cannot support these > >requirements. I know that it can, if an implementer wanted to include > >this support - but I am certain that we need to give one the ability to > >do the following: > > > >(1) Search for all XML elements that belong to namespace XYZ > >(2) Register an XML attribute and associate it in the registry with > >specific XML elements > >(3) Discover all complex datatypes that contain elements that were > >submitted by organization YYY > >etc. > > > >A standard mechanism for this in our specs - or a Technical Note - would > >help ensure that vendors implement this functionality in a standard way. > >Frankly, this void is IMHO one of the things that has inhibited the > >existence of an US federal XML registry (or series of registries). I'm > >basing this not only on my opinion, but on the opinions of folks in the > >federal space that I have heard over and over for years now. > > > > > I agree that a TN is the way to communicate how to use an ebXML Registry > to manage XML Schema artifacts. > Such a TN could be the outcome of the work we are doing in the OASIS > egov registry SC and piloting within the > UK Government. On behalf of that SC I am willing to take such a TN as > one of our deliverables in the next few months. > But I do want to clear any incorrect perception that such support does > not exist in the registry today. The TN will describe nothing new that > the registry needs to do. It will only describe how to use it for that > specific application. > Let me know if this sounds reasonable. > > -- > Regards, > Farrukh > > -------------------------------------------------------- > Going to Java One 2004 June 28 - July 1? > > http://java.sun.com/javaone/ > > Come see the newly released freebXML Registry 3.0 > at pod 1220 in the Java One Pavilion: > > http://ebxmlrr.sourceforge.net > http://ebxmlrr.sourceforge.net/presentations/freebXMLRegistryBrochure.pdf > http://ebxmlrr.sourceforge.net/presentations/xmlEurope2004/04-02-02.pdf > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > >Thanks so much, > >Joe > > > >Farrukh Najmi wrote: > > > > > >>Chiusano Joseph wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Just released: Government Computer News (GCN) feature on XML registries, > >>>featuring Owen Ambur (XML.gov Co-Chair) and Marion Royal of GSA. > >>> > >>>Title: "Would a governmentwide XML schema registry cut duplication?" > >>> > >>>Quote: "It is far harder than it should be for folks to discover and > >>>reuse data elements, not to mention actual instances of data," said > >>>Ambur, a systems analyst for the Fish and Wildlife Service. "They are > >>>often left with no practical choice but to reinvent the data elements > >>>they need." > >>> > >>>Of course, this can only be fully realized when the OASIS/ebXML Registry > >>>standard has *native, standard* support for registration, maintenance, > >>>and discovery of fine-grained artifacts > >>>(elements/attributes/datatypes/namespace identifiers), along with a > >>>*standard mechanism* to assemble these into schemas. :) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>Thanks for sharing this Joe. > >> > >>The ebXML Registry standard already supports: > >> > >>" > >>*native, standard* support for registration, maintenance, > >>and discovery of fine-grained artifacts > >>(elements/attributes/datatypes/namespace identifiers) > >>" > >> > >>Note that we have had above abilities since version 1.0 of the ebXML > >>Registry. > >> > >>What we do not yet have is the > >> > >>"*standard mechanism* to assemble these into schemas" > >> > >>I also want to point out that the "*standard mechanism* to assemble > >>these into schemas" > >>is not and has never been part of our charter. We view this as an > >>application that is a client > >>of the ebXML Registry. We are willing to help anyone who wishes to > >>develop such a client. > >> > >>Please let me know if I misunderstand the issue and do what you can to > >>correct any accidental misleading > >>perception. Thanks. > >> > >>-- > >>Regards, > >>Farrukh > >> > >> > >> > >> > > -- Kind Regards, Joseph Chiusano Associate Booz | Allen | Hamilton