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Subject: Re: Mailing list problems?


James Clark wrote:
> 
> Is anybody else having problems with messages getting mangled by this
> mailing list?  I'm not sure whether the problems I'm having are local or due
> to the mail server.

I think it may be the mail server - your message appears empty in Netscape, and
I've noticed the same thing over the past couple of days in other messages
to xml-dev and ebxml lists. I'll send a heads up to Karl Best and Carol Geyer.

Eduardo

> 
> For example, the tutorial I just sent out had an introductory paragraph and
> two attachments.  When it came back to me, it had no introductory paragraph
> and the two attachments were merged into one.  In the archives, the
> introductory paragraph was there, but the attachments got mangled into one.
> 
> In several messages, some of the headers get moved into the message body.
> For example, here's one of Norm's messages that got mangled.  After the
> 
> >From ndw@nwalsh.com Thu May 31 17: 45:13 2001
> 
> line, the message body contains things that should be part of the header.
> 
> Return-Path: <cyrus@server>
> X-Sieve: cmu-sieve 2.0
> Return-Path: <services@eListX.com>
> Received: from localhost (jjc@localhost [127.0.0.1])
>  by server.bkk.thaiopensource.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4VLiSY19698
>  for <jjc@localhost>; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 04:44:28 +0700
> Received: from jclark.com [192.41.25.183]
>  by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.6.0)
>  for jjc@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 01 Jun 2001 04:44:28 +0700 (ICT)
> Received: from one.elistx.com (one.elistx.com [209.116.252.130]) by
> jclark.com (8.8.5) id PAA22546; Thu, 31 May 2001 15:43:44 -0600 (MDT)
> Resent-From: relax-ng-errors@lists.oasis-open.org
> Resent-Message-Id: <200105312143.PAA22546@jclark.com>
> Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.eListX.com by eListX.com (PMDF V6.0-24
> #44856)
>  id <0GE700701Z3FG9@eListX.com> for jjc@jclark.com; Thu,
>  31 May 2001 17:45:17 -0400 (EDT)
> Received: from ELIST-DAEMON.eListX.com by eListX.com (PMDF V6.0-24 #44856)
>  id <0GE700704Z3FG4@eListX.com> (original mail from services@eListX.com);
> Thu,
>  31 May 2001 17:45:15 -0400 (EDT)
> Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.eListX.com by eListX.com (PMDF V6.0-24
> #44856)
>  id <0GE700701Z3EFZ@eListX.com> for relax-ng@elist.lists.oasis-open.org
>  (ORCPT relax-ng@lists.oasis-open.org); Thu, 31 May 2001 17:45:14 -0400
> (EDT)
> Received: from DIRECTORY-DAEMON.eListX.com by eListX.com (PMDF V6.0-24
> #44856)
>  id <0GE700701Z3DFY@eListX.com> for relax-ng@elist.lists.oasis-open.org
>  (ORCPT relax-ng@lists.oasis-open.org); Thu, 31 May 2001 17:45:13 -0400
> (EDT)
> Received: from eListX.com by eListX.com (PMDF V6.0-24 #44856)
>  id <0GE700701Z3DFX@eListX.com> for relax-ng@lists.oasis-open.org; Thu,
>  31 May 2001 17:45:13 -0400 (EDT)
> Received: from DIRECTORY-DAEMON.eListX.com by eListX.com (PMDF V6.0-24
> #44856)
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>  (ORCPT trex@lists.oasis-open.org); Thu, 31 May 2001 17:45:00 -0400 (EDT)
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>  for trex@lists.oasis-open.org; Thu, 31 May 2001 17:45:00 -0400 (EDT)
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>  <trex@lists.oasis-open.org>; Thu, 31 May 2001 15:43:29 -0600 (MDT)
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>  31 May 2001 17:43:09 -0400
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> Resent-date: Thu, 31 May 2001 17:45:13 -0400 (EDT)
> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 17:43:09 -0400
> From: Norman Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com>
> Subject: Re: Model TC home page
> In-reply-to: <02d901c0e9e7$86c49040$0e00a8c0@bkk.thaiopensource.com>
> Sender: services@eListX.com
> To: TREX Discussion List <relax-ng@lists.oasis-open.org>
> Message-id: <878zjd9pty.fsf@nwalsh.com>
> MIME-version: 1.0
> Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> X-UIDL: 00358171c126ef036511b302f281750b
> 
> >From ndw@nwalsh.com Thu May 31 17: 45:13 2001
> User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7
> Lines: 25
> References: <02d901c0e9e7$86c49040$0e00a8c0@bkk.thaiopensource.com>
> List-Owner: <mailto:relax-ng-help@lists.oasis-open.org>
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> 
> / James Clark <jjc@jclark.com> was heard to say:
> | OASIS prefers to do the Web mastering itself.  We need only provide the
> raw
> | content and the OASIS web staff will make it pretty (I'm naturally a bit
> | sceptical about this, but let's give them a chance).
> 
> FWIW, I have an XSLT stylesheet that turns my website DTD (a
> derivative of DocBook, uh, of course :-) into this format.  (You can
> see the result of a different XSLT stylesheet on the committees/entity
> pages; I can't roll out the new look until they do.)
> 
> | If anybody would like to help collect material for the TC home page, that
> | would be very helpful.  Especially, it would be good to have some simple,
> | easy to understand explanation of the goals of RELAX NG.
> 
> I already maintain the pages for the entity resolution and DocBook TCs.
> I'm willing to do it for RELAX NG as well, if you'd like.
> 
>                                         Be seeing you,
>                                           norm
> 
> --
> Norman.Walsh@Sun.COM   | In every work of genius we recognize our own
> XML Standards Engineer | rejected thoughts; they come back to us with a
> Technology Dev. Group  | certain alienated majesty.--Emerson
> Sun Microsystems, Inc. |
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Eduardo Gutentag               |         e-mail: eduardo@eng.Sun.COM
XML Technology Center          |         Phone:  (650) 786-5498
Sun Microsystems Inc.          |         fax:    (650) 786-5727


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