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Subject: RE: [saf] SAF Cloud Use Case refined


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Hi all,

 

+1 on Catalog authoring (in a business context) as a use case! This is a very important point, I agree.

 

+1 on templates for Syndromes. This is an important idea. In fact, the white paper cloud example talks about distributing symptom catalogs to consumers, that they might emit, but doesn’t cover the idea of templates or the idea of a consumer sending the Symptoms back to the provider (cool!). I believe we should take an AI to look at this later, for sure.

 

I would also like to suggest the idea of parameterized templates with ranges and enumerations. Something like:

 

 “Syndrome: Detect when Quote {quote} price has increased {increase 1-100%} within {timeinterval}  {interval [seconds, minutes, or hours].”

 

 

Thanks,

Paul

 

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From: Stavros.Isaiadis@uk.fujitsu.com [mailto:Stavros.Isaiadis@uk.fujitsu.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:58 AM
To: Vaught, Jeffrey A; saf@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [saf] SAF Cloud Use Case refined

 

Hi all,

 

following Jeff's example see the attached attempt at the PaaS use case. It's missing colourful diagrams but hopefully those will be added sooner rather than later!

 

Cheers,

 

Stavros

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Vaught, Jeffrey A [mailto:Jeffrey.Vaught@ca.com]
Sent: 08 February 2010 18:34
To: saf@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [saf] SAF Cloud Use Case refined

Attached is a use case modeled somewhat after those published on the DMTF site.

 

After spending time working this use case, I’m now wondering if catalog “authoring” isn’t something we should consider for the Cloud profile.   For example, in the cloud use case (attached) we have the following actors:

-          Customer – who brings his requirements to the automated decision making process.

-          Stavros Investment Services – who brings its know-how (recognizing patterns of symptoms & associated actions)

-          Stock Quote Provider – who brings its symptoms

 

In the current Spec, we don’t really provide any guidance on how we take decision making requirements and map them to symptoms, syndromes, and protocols.  I could see an “authoring” flow working something like the following:

-          Consumer “gets” Stavros’ SAF catalog to see what Syndromes it recognizes.

-          The Stavros Syndromes could be “templates”, not necessarily functioning Syndromes.  For example, “Syndrome: Detect when Quote {quote} price has increased {increase%} within {timeinterval}.”

-          The Consumer could then instantiate such a “template”, ie: Syndrome: Detect when Quote XYZ prices has increased 5% within 24 hours.  It would be instantiated within Stavros’ Diagnostician.

-          The instantiation would also involve mapping Symptom elements to the “template” Syndrome, in addition to the above hard values.

 

Seems like Syndrome templates, Symptom mapping, and instantiation are important aspects of SAF that we haven’t considered up to this point. 

Thoughts?

 

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