Roll - meeting quorate with 27 of 35 present
Approval of Minutes
Resolution: m:Walker s:Wells minutes of 2007-11-20 approved w/o
Proposed face to face meeting
Oracle has offered to host the meeting at Redwood Shores on January 22 and 23, 2008 followed by a policy tc the next two
scribes notes that there were no objections or discussion concerning the offer
I will send out directions etc. later
Resolution: m:Nash s:Khanderao New issue assembly-27 opened w/o
there have been other new issues posted, but they will not appear on the agenda until next week
proposed resolution by Edwards is in message 74 in the November archive
Reviews his proposal
... There have ben several contributers invluding Peshev and Rowley and others to construct this composite proposal
... I propose a whole new subsection following line 330 such proposed text is contained in the referenced email above
Be forewarned that line numbers may vary based on different versions of word that reviewers may be using.
... These line numbers are relative to version 3.01
... It would be better to post in pdf to prevent line numbers from moving around.
I have no objection to that
The assembler or the deployer of a composite MUST ensure that references
are properly configured according to these rules.
Propose removing that sentence entirely
I am curious why errors should be generated rather than must be generated
errors may be detected earlier than at run time, errors should be discovered as soon as possible
It would be exhausting at this point to develop an exhaustive list of errors
Editors be aware that there are some typos in the proposal
wired-by-impl case is missing from section 3.0.1
Why is the wired by impl not specified in this list?
we need to work on the RFC2119 bits, for example in the first paragraph in 3.0.1
... is that may English or RFC2119 MAY
we can substitute can or may when we mean it in the English sense
i'll be glad to take a section to help out martin
5. MAY This word, or the adjective "OPTIONAL", mean that an item is
truly optional. One vendor may choose to include the item because a
particular marketplace requires it or because the vendor feels that
it enhances the product while another vendor may omit the same item.
An implementation which does not include a particular option MUST be
prepared to interoperate with another implementation which does
include the option, though perhaps with reduced functionality. In the
same vein an implementation which does include a particular option
MUST be prepared to interoperate with another implementation which
does not include the option (except, of course, for the feature the
Action: Chapman to knock it into RFC2119 shape due=2007-12-04
Action: Edwards to address the wired-by-impl case due=2007-12-04
Assembly-11 Defining conformance targets
this issue looks like it needs more email discussion
Chapman discuses various opportunities for the definition of conformance targets in particular, humans cannot be identified
as conformance targets
Action: Chapman to write a proposal defining conformance targets intending to close assembly-11 due=2007-12-04
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